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Complete Symptom Relief and CFS Remission Since Starting Nitric Oxide Supplement

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by gregh286, Mar 25, 2016.

  1. gregh286

    gregh286 Senior Member

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    Hi,
    I've been on here a few years. Like most I have tried nearly every supplement there is, mostly a lot of rubbish.
    On Feb 5th I started a product called MRI No2 Black.
    http://mri-performance.com/products/no2-black/

    I ran out around 10 days ago and symptoms started returning promptly.....a blessing in disguise as I was taking a lot of supplements and that was the only one i stopped before CFS come back....allowing me to pinpoint the actual beneficial supplement with high confidence.

    Its a No2 booster with Actinos technology to keep the No2 longer in system.

    I always suspected a blood vessel/dilation issue as dilators always provided relief,,,hot weather,,,humid weather,,,sauna.....hot baths,,,,,,red wine....etc.

    This product will most likely work in the sub group that gets good relief from alcohol.

    By 36 hours later I was a new person....complete symptom relief.
    Fatigue gone, thirst gone, feet warmer, no tingling in hands,
    I wake up totally refreshed now. My body wakening me ready to tackle the day ahead.

    Over the past month I have gone back to surfing, golfing and so on without payback.
    I have encouraged my closer friends I have met here etc with CFS to try it now since I have around 6 weeks in the clear with the exception of the running out "blip"..... too long for a "fluke" period. I will ask them to report their findings.

    I would encourage anyone to try it and maybe we can do a poll later, prehaps better to all use same product to rule out brand variance.

    Fluge and Mella haven't taken out a patent for no2 treatment in CFS for nothing.

    I take 5 tablets twice a day. (equivalent of 10g daily of Arginine AKG.)

    I look forward to more people trying it and joining me in the land of the living.

    Anyone with CFS knows that "lactic" feeling on the legs etc....it lifts pretty quick, obviously the higher vasodilation creating easier lactate clearance from cells.
    Bye for now.

    BTW i still trying to figure out why we should have this No2 issue. Arginine is a potent Nk cell activator,.....so is it a NK issue. Do we have low epinephrine/norepinphine creating a low vasodilatory situation? Is low Taurine involved. I think we are closer than ever to finding answers with the Rituximab study well under way, OMF tests and so forth.
    I think thats we crash hard under a stress situation as the vessels "tighten" up even more creating a tougher metabolic state and higher lactate. Personally, I'm persuaded towards weak adrenal output but time will tell, the No2 is "bypassing" this weak epinephrine state,
     
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    Skippa Senior Member

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    I HATE that lactic acid stupid legs feeling, so I'm tempted to try it just for that.

    What are the known negative side effects if it doesn't agree with me?
     
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    gregh286 Senior Member

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    Arginine....maybe upset stomach. Its just an activated form of an essential amino acid.
     
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    deleder2k Senior Member

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    Very interesting. Have you tried nitrates? Nitro spray (Nitrolingual) or isosorbide mononitrate (Imdur)?


    What experience do you have with alcohol?
     
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    gregh286 Senior Member

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    Nitrates yea i tried imdur.....they are too powerful and.short acting. We need something that operates 24 hours a day.

    Alcohol gives me great relief when i am consuming it but you payback with it as it creates more toxins. Now i can take alcohol without payback cos body can clear toxins much faster when taking NO2
    There was a poll here not so long ago....better with alcohol or something to that effect.
     
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    Yeah, Vinpocetine (a vasodilator) helped me with my symptoms despite having POTS. My docs lit refused to believe it was helpful. After abx, I didn't need it anymore.

    Alcohol makes me feel way better, but hot and humid weather basically strike me across the back of the head. Not sure what to make of that!

    I'm really glad you've found something helpful for you!

    -J
     
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    Dr Hornig had reported that their cohort was significantly low in ADMA assymetric dimethylarginine. I do wonder about the significance of this. It may have been in their CFI funded study nothing published on this though.
     
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    Vasodilator will help ease symptoms but it wont boost No2.
    Increasing no2 intake will cover both bases.
    POTS is lack of vasodilatory control....another symptom of poor NO2 status.
     
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    Your No2 experience is very interesting, I hope you continue to update us...

    Just watched Dr. Bell's video describing research into blood volume/vessel issues, have you seen it by any chance?

    www.openmedicinefoundation.org/video-library/

    With Bell joining OMF's Advisory Board & his interest in blood/volume/vessels & the Rituximab work, fingers crossed some of your questions will begin to be answered.
     
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    gregh286 Senior Member

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    It would appear significant.
     
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    So, are you paying them a royalty ? :)
     
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    gregh286 Senior Member

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    Hi.
    No didnt see video but thanks for link. Looking at blood...vessels...volume will unearth something eventually.
     
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    Only if they catch me.:)
     
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    Did you have gut issues at all before taking this supplement @gregh286 ? If so how's the gut now?
     
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    gregh286 Senior Member

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    Never had gut issues to begin with. Gut issues maybe an extension of poor blood flow to gut cells?
     
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    aimossy Senior Member

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    Anythings possible with this illness :)
     
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  17. Marky90

    Marky90 Science breeds knowledge, opinion breeds ignorance

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    Great to hear Gregh! Might try this :)
     
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    @gregh286

    I am happy for you Greg! Is it possible to know what was the trigger of your ME/CFS please?
     
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    No real trigger per say...my onset was slow over a few years.
    I think high stress job......too many alcohol units a week combined has overstressed my adrenals leading to low epinehpine and CFS thereafter. My krebs cycle.also highlights poor protein synthesis....this maybe contributes.
     
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    Thanks so much for letting us know @gregh286.

    I fit your profile: saunas and hot baths and alcohol give me temporary relief from symptoms. I'm going to try the product and will let you know how it goes.

    Edit: okay just had a look at the product and I'm worried about the arginine. When I took arginine a few years ago had a herpes flare within 24 hours. This is very rare for me, so have stayed away from arginine since then. I suppose I could load up on lysine and lysine rich foods and stay away from arginine rich foods if I do take this product.

    Greg, can you tell me more about the arginine in this product?
     
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