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Discussion in 'Detox: Methylation; B12; Glutathione; Chelation' started by richvank, Apr 8, 2010.

  1. Dreambirdie

    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    Hey Rich--

    Thanks for the lab recommendation.

    Does this test require the use of a chelating agent? I hope not, cuz I can't do that to myself right now.

    Looking over the list of symptoms for Wilson's Disease, it doesn't ring true for me... but it wouldn't hurt to test for it.
  2. richvank

    richvank Senior Member

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    Hi, Dreambirdie.

    No, no chelator is used for this test for Wilson's disease. I'm glad that your symptoms don't appear to correspond to those of Wilson's disease, and I hope you don't have it, but if you do, it's treatable, and if you do have it, it would be a major shame not to find out, because over time it does bad things to the people who have it.

    Best regards,

    Rich
  3. Dreambirdie

    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    Thanks Rich. I'm going to get the test.
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    kurt Senior Member

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    Here is some interesting evidence that glutathoine may have an antiviral effect, in this experiment glutathione levels were directly related to levels of herpes viral replication. Also how interesting that the herpes infection depletes glutathione. Of course this proves nothing about a retrovirus, but still I think supports the general idea that GD-MB may address some viral problems.

  5. August59

    August59 Daughters High School Graduation

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    Just my thoughts from being one that has very elevated EBV and HHV-6 levels. If someone has a properly working methylation cycle it is going to squash a viral intrusion typically. If you have a partial methylation block and you get hit with a virus you may or may not be able to fight it off. If your methylation cycle is totally blocked and you get hammered with a virus, then you are more than likely going to have both forms of treatment. I don't believe that most people that are very sick with a virus is going to get well by lifting a methylation block alone, as they will probably need an antiviral (which one is a great geuss). On the other hand the same person is not going to get well with antivirals alone, they are going to have to fix the block. I very much suspect most of us are somewhere in between the two extremes and everyone is going to have to fix their own as we are all different.
    I'm totally with the ones that think XMRV will not be the cause of CFS, but a passenger or a messenger. I do believe the discovery is going to help find the cure however. I have more faith in the the "Spinal Tap" study than I do anything because I think it explains the extreme differences that exist in all of us as it could totally depend on the region of the brain or brainstem that it affects.
    We all need to believe in something and keep trying different things till you find something hopefully. I sure hate to think where we would be if everybody had only tried one and the same thing. I would have no hope at all at this point if that was the case.
  6. JPV

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    What's this "Spinal Tap" study?

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