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Cognitive Dysfunction, What Parts of your Brain are Missing??

Discussion in 'Cognition' started by George, Nov 10, 2010.

  1. George

    George waitin' fer rabbits

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    We got to talking on another thread about what parts of the brain are working or not working, how much cognitive dysfunction a person has, how it fluctuates from day to day and what research has been done into this area.

    So here's a thread to dig into all that stuff!
  2. George

    George waitin' fer rabbits

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    History: I've been majorly ill for 4 years October 5th (6:52 am, grins, no really!) That's when I began having cognitive problems.

    Recall: I can recall "stories" that I've told and retold over the years but have no "visual memory", I can't remember my wedding, prom, first sex ya know the important stuff.

    I can recall tons of facts on good days, on bad days it's more difficult it feels like it takes "more energy" like I'm swimming through a pool of cooked pumkin. Prior to hitting the wall I had an edict memory and could recall things like the page number of a particular fact in a particular book and remember, author, date of publishing and sometimes the ISBN. (O.K. I was a bit of a freak, but useful, grins)

    But I can't remember what I'm doing from one moment to the next, I had to write on my floor, I kid you not, in the bathroom in front of the toilet, in front of the front door and in front of the couch "Check the Stove". I can't count the number of times I have wandered off to take out the trash and then decided to prune the tree or fertilize the rose bush while my soup burned to the bottom of the pan.

    I no longer have a coherent sense of time. I can't tell you if Regan came before Clinton or if LBJ was before or after Nixon (That's soooo embarrassing!) Considering that I can talk fluently about policies of each of these administrations it's a little weird.

    On bad days when my spine is swollen and the back of my head, what ever comes to mind is what comes to mind. Having any type of coherent thought process is totally out.

    There are days that I have, what I feel are, inappropriate emotional responses to events. I'll cry over something that's no big deal or laugh at things that are just not that funny.

    I have days when I am unable to count without using the silverware, and can't retrieve the correct word for sentences and here's the really freaky one but it's only happened a couple of times, I can't understand an object that I'm looking at until I touch it i.e. trash can that I thought was a blanket, tree I thought was broccoli and bush I thought was a solid hill, umm imagine my surprise when I tried to walk on it!. O.k. that's it for the symptoms. . .I think. (grins)
  3. wciarci

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    Hi George

    Brainfog, words fail me, I mean literally they fail me. I have to say things like the room with the stove (ie kitchen), I have called by husband, Mom, more times than I can count, or Pat (my sister) or other names that are not his. I can't remember my student's name half the time and it is embarrassing. I can't spell. I can't cook unless the recipe is in front of me. I walk into a room to do something and can't remember. I forget why and what I am writing and to whom. I was always decent at math but have problems doing simple arithmetic. Oh yeah, I can't spell. I repeat myself. I can't remember anything, my husband leaves notes around the house. I'll go to the store for milk and buy something else. I can't distinquish chilli powder from curry. I have 24 curry spices and no chilli as I keep buying the wrong thing. I hat curry. I write the wrong date, sometimes really wrong, like 1984 when it is 2010. I make up words. I poke myself in the eye all the time when I try to brush my hair. I fart all the time (oops sorry wrong symptom). But I think I still have a sense of humor ;-)

    Wendy

    I think my left hemisphere is not working well. I am right brain dominant anyway.
  4. camas

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    Oh, George.:hug:

    The first few years were the toughest for me. I experienced everything you mentioned. NADH didn't do a thing for my energy, but really helped my brain turn the corner, so to speak. My biggest issues now are word-finding and just feeling generally distracted. I don't put my phone in the fridge, or forget to turn the oven off anymore, but between being weak and feeling overwhelmed by too much stimuli, I drive like a 90-year-old. Or maybe worse. :D
  5. Nielk

    Nielk

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    What part of my brain is missing? Apparently a lot!
    Seriously, there is a fine line as to what is normal neurological dysfunction due to stress, aging, trauma etc..
    It's normal especially at certain age like 45+ to forget names or forget where you put your keys.
    The problem arises when you forget what keys are for.
    Like a psychiatrist friend of mine says - it's normal for a man a certain age to forget to close his zipper. It is not normal for him to foget
    to open it.

    Is it normal that I cannot remember the names of my closest friends?
    Is it normal that I can reread books that I read recently and have no idea that I ever read them?
    Is it normal that I make myself a pot of coffee, leave the kitchen and when I come back the coffee is all over the counter and floor
    because I forgot to put the pot into the peculator?
    Is it normal that my children keep telling me: "but ma, you just told me that?
    Is it normal to go into my car and have to remind myself where all the equipment is?
    Is it normal to forget where my left or right is?
    Is it normal to ALWAYS forget whether I already took a certain medicine and then I'm stuck not knowing whether I;m better off doubling it or
    not take it.
    is it normal not to be able to finish a sentence without struggling to find common words that just won't come to my mind as hard as I try.
    Sometimes when I'm talking, funny noises come out of my mouth that i can't control. EMBARRASSING!
    I'm 55 but I think when I'm crashing i have a brain of a 95 year old.
    I feel like I have a super sensitive brain that sometimes is ready to explode with emotions just because someone is talking too loud.
    Before I was sick, I was very low key and "normal"

    Very frustrating!!!!
  6. George

    George waitin' fer rabbits

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    LOL SNORT, dang it's always good to know it's not just me. Neilk I guess it is normal for ME/CFS. Which is really interesting if you think about it cause ME is a neurological illness. Chronic Fatigue is a "fatigue" illness.

    So I guess none of us have CFS according to CDC

    It should get interesting when the new NIH web site comes up and the DHHS adopts M.E. to the CFS pathology.

    So what parts of our brain are affected most. the recall part?? And what research is out there that talks about the ME/CFS brain works or doesn't work and does that tie into what we know about XMRV??

    Whatcha think?
  7. George

    George waitin' fer rabbits

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    OOhh, ooohhh, ooohh,

    What do you have CFS or ME? (big grins)

    I love the car analogy!

    I would say that I have ME rather than CFS. But then I don't have the unrefreshed sleep. I feel better most mornings when I wake up I just don't feel better by the time I've made breakfast.
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    Nielk

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    I don't know.
    I forgot.
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    I feel like my cognitive dysfunction is just the sort of stuff you'd expect when you're feeling really tired (more dimwitted, slow and forgetful). I also find that intellectual challenges tire me out nearly as rapidly as physical ones.

    I've been getting vertigo and migraines for the last nine months or so, and that's led to some more general balance problems - I guess that could count as a distinct form of cognitive dysfunction. I think (maybe it should be for others to judge) that my mind still works okay... just more slowly and for shorter periods of time that previously.
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    What was the question, again?
  11. Nielk

    Nielk

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    exactly
    proved the point
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    wciarci Wenderella

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    Good one, floydwho?
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    Why did I come into the kitchen?

    Trying to get the mind in gear and then trying to get it operating correctly is exhausting. And ultimately it results in expending more physical energy....

    Putting things away in the wrong place and then the next time I need that same thing....cannot find it, it is not where it should be....so where did I put it?

    All those trips to the store and when you get home, you don't have what you went to the store in the first place.

    Humph!!!!

    June
  14. George

    George waitin' fer rabbits

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    (snicker, snort) So do you guys have trouble "knowing" who someone is if you see them in a place you wouldn't normally see them? Like I say the grocery checker lady at wal-mart and I'm really nice to my check out people so she stops and talks to me and the whole time I'm thinking "oh, god, oh, god who is she, who is she". It was like seeing her for the first time.

    So this has been going on for me for Four years, any longer term folks, does it get worse, better or stay about the same? The first two years don't count cause I think you in such shock that it's hard to discern what's going on. (grins)
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    George asked:

    "So this has been going on for me for Four years, any longer term folks, does it get worse, better or stay about the same? The first two years don't count cause I think you in such shock that it's hard to discern what's going on. "

    In my case, yes the mind-thing did get worse. I have been at this 30+ years. I can still find my way home though!

    But my grown sons had better start calling me more often or I will forget who they are.

    June
  16. ggingues

    ggingues $10 gift code at iHerb GAS343 of $40

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    Ah, don't they wear name tags?

    My Wal-Mart Story: The greeter at my local one asked me:

    "What kind of bees make milk?"
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    Milking Bees? well that's interesting.

    What kind of test have anybody had done for their cognitive problems????

    I've had a normal MRI no problems and er, um well that's it.
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    I would love to outline my brain problems, but they are particulaly bad today. Can't read a sentence and make sense of it. So I keep getting stuck reading it over and over again. I describe it by saying that my brain and I aren't friends anymore (we're not talking to each other).
    I'll do a proper reply later, if I remember (geez, what are the chances of that?).

    take care, ness
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    I used to remember where I put everything. ha. Used to multi-task. Not anymore.

    word-finding difficulties, and mispronunciation. Even if I can think of the word, I often can't say it. and I make a lot of typos and can't figure out how to write things (don't know how to form the letters or numbers, even if I can think of what they should be). I also write the wrong dates. Can't do the level of math I used to.

    Sometimes navigating my brain is like slogging through a marsh-like black fog. Viscous like the marsh, but all around like a fog.

    Can't concentrate when I'm tired. Often loose track mid-word what I was saying or writing. Forget remembering what I was doing long enough to go in the other room, can I remember long enough to turn around or reach out my arm?

    will put down more later if needed
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    On good days my husband can still 'think' well, and long term memory is fine, but even on the good days the short term memory is bad.

    Always these days (10 years since the 'flu' onset and 5 years since it got really bad) must be told several times each day what day it is and how many days it is before his medical appointment, if it is tomorrow or the day after. On bad days, which is probably 80% of the time now, cognitive defects pretty much describes it. He simply cannot take in information and make any sense of it. Cause and effect and relationships of things or thoughts is becoming a very foreign concept. It really is brain fog as he often has no real idea of what is going on around him - just like he is enveloped in a fog and he can't see out and information can't get in.

    Unfortunately, he has the compounding factor of now being 74 years old, so it is hard to know what may be age related and what is XMRV (not tested yet, but really, the writing is on the wall and the letters are 10' high) related. However, because he is still himself for 'thinking' on the good days, I'm betting most of this is XMRV related.

    Oh, how I wish the research would hurry up... hmmm, Actos without any ARV's? might it help? Could I talk a Dr. in France into it? Should I even try? Damn but it is frustrating trying to be your own Dr. because of the great shortage of MD's who will take the time to even try.

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