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Chlorella boosts interferon and NK cell activity

Richard7

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The results seem a little strange.

With the cytokines the placebo groups had lower levels after 8 weeks than they did at baseline, for two of them the p value was less than 0.001. Which is to say the that the placebo seemed just as sure to reduce Il 12 and IFN y, as chorella was to boost Il1b.

The placebo (lactose) seemed to be good at reducing NK cell activity too, reducing it by over 50% on one of the tests.

I don't know enough about the immune system to know what is normal. The fact that the lactose group went down about as much as the chlorella went up (proportionally: NK cell activity doubled in one group and was halved in the other) makes me wonder if this movement is within the range of the usual ups and downs of the healthy population.

One of the sponsors was the manufacturer of the chlorella.

I recently read some research sponsored by another chlorella company (sun) that looked into SIgA. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3182968/
It was a study on males (and I'm male) and the increase looked pretty good about 50%, 40 -60 mcg/ml, until I saw that the placebo had gone from a little under 60 to a little over 40mcg/ml. It was a crossover study, so they were the same people and unless the washout period was too short it looked like it might just be random movement within their usual range of concentrations.

Then I saw a study in which teenage athletes were fluctuating around 70 and another where pregnant women averaged 119 and non pregnat women averaged 90 which very usefully mentioned that the reference range was 60-300 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1684252/.

I don't know what the reference range in for NK cell activity and a quick search did not give me an answer, maybe someone else knows.
 

Richard7

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thanks @helen1

So the chlorella group went from the bottom of the range a bit over the middle, and that the lactose group went from not much above the bottom of the range down to the bottom of the range, in one test and perhaps below it in the other.

Wouldn't you assume that a group of people tested for their NK cell cytotoxicity would get results in the middle of the range (16); so a result of 15 for E:T of 1.25:1 or of 16 or 17 for E:T = 5:1 would be pretty much what you would expect.

The section on participants seems to suggest that they were carefully choosing people who were not ill, but they were chosen from the health centre of a hospital and I do not know if this means that they were patients or staff.

Perhaps the noteworthy thing is that the chlorella group had a such a low level at about 8 or 9 for E:T = 1.25:1 and about 7 for E:T = 5:1. (The placebo seems to be 8 or 9 for E:T = 1.25 : 1 and 10 or 11 for E:T = 1:5.)

If you chose a group of healthy people at the bottom of the range wouldn't you expect them to improve whatever you did?

Anyway, I am not claiming to know the underlying science or statistics, I hope someone who knows the underlying science will come along and explain why I am wrong (I have some chlorella in the cupboard) or right (if this is so).