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Chamomile or Peppermint Tea - Night-time

Discussion in 'Sleep' started by wonderoushope, Aug 2, 2017.

  1. wonderoushope

    wonderoushope Senior Member

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    Hi all,

    I am currently doing the RPAH diet and testing salicylates and I have to consume peppermint and chamomile tea. Is one better than the other for sleeping?

    I have been on sals for over a week and have noticed an increase in insomnia, so just want to make sure the teas at night are not making things worse.
     
  2. msf

    msf Senior Member

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    Camomile is a fodmap, peppermint isn´t. I find that FODMAP foods disturb my sleep.
     
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  3. wonderoushope

    wonderoushope Senior Member

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    Ok great to know. I seem to have issues with high fodmaps. I been drinking more peppermint than chamomile though.
     
  4. msf

    msf Senior Member

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    Perhaps the problem is your new diet - does that contain any FODMAPs?
     
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    wonderoushope Senior Member

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    The diet does have high fodmaps, but dietician has taken most of them out. I have been doing the diet for about 3 months, but I challenge food groups once I reach close to baseline. The reason is we started to notice high fodmaps on the diet started causing me nausea.
     
  6. msf

    msf Senior Member

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    These things are complicated, but I find sticking to the FODMAP diet is simplest. Do you have a medical reason to avoid salicylates?
     
  7. wonderoushope

    wonderoushope Senior Member

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    Yes, I seem to react to certain foods, but so far nothing is conclusive with results (but have noticed an issue with high fodmap foods). I had done the fodmap diet in the past, but at the time I got really sick and reacted to all foods, so it was suggested the RPAH diet might be best.

    I am only avoiding saliylates short term (a little over a week). I am doing the RPAH elimination diet. Where you eliminate a lot of foods until you get to baseline (meaning you are not reacting) then you challenge food chemicals within certain group to see if you are sensitive. I have been doing the saliylates challenge for a bit over a week and will stop early next week. So far I am not reacting to saliylates, apart from noticing a bit more insomnia and itchiness.

    I have already tested amines, wheat and lactose free milk. I seem to react a bit to amines, but lactose free milk is fine. Wheat I have to redo as I made a mistake, but sort of looks like I react to it.
     
  8. ChrisD

    ChrisD Senior Member

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    I usually go for Peppermint in the morning as it is slightly stimulating, and camomile at night to wind down with..... but also find that Peppermint after a meal helps with digestion
     
  9. hellytheelephant

    hellytheelephant Senior Member

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    Peppermint is somewhat stimulating for nightime. I tend to drink camomile very strong- with 2 teabags in as it has a soothing and calming effect on your nervous system. Also very calming for nausea and upset stomach.
     
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    Peyt Senior Member

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    Chamomile is a natural beta blocker so it would help those with excess norepinephrine with sleep(if one has that problem)
     
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    I've had insomnia from peppermint tea and peppermint leaves before.
     
  12. tudiemoore

    tudiemoore Senior Member

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    Yes, chamomile is a calming herb while peppermint is thought to be an energizer.
    Since I work to avoid anything that can keep me awake, I avoid peppermint after 4:00 PM
    I do seem to fail badly at walking away from the computer, usually with PR keeping me up!
     

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