I've been reading the ICC regarding pain. It says: I'm not sure if I meet this criteria. What I have is a dull ache in my legs all the time. Sometimes it is so annoying I take a warm bath. But I don't feel the need to seek out a pain doctor. I've also had severe stomach aches. Some excruciating. But these were on and off for a few months. Then a couple years later, same thing. But I don't have them now. I also have sever pain in my jaw joint, that is intermittent. Most of the time I don't have it. It's rare. I have pain in my shoulders. It can get bad enough for me to take ibuprofen, or force me to sleep in a different position. But that predates CFS and was diagnosed as arthritis. I sometimes get pain in area of lungs. Which is annoying and scary. But that predates CFS. And then, of course, there are the sore throats. But I don't think that's what they are talking about. So I wonder if my pain qualifies as "significant." I'm not even sure what "significant" means in this context. Thoughts? Also, what is your pain like? Do you even have pain?