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CDC whistleblower reveals cover-up linking MMR vaccines to autism

Iquitos

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LOL that is even more bizarre, to claim that one should produce evidence AGAINST this, when this wasn't even what he was charged with in the GMC case :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: or what he COULD be charged with, even in theory.

... as you should well know the GMC can only act when there is professional misconduct between a doctor and his/her patient, wrong medical advice etc. There was no such thing in this case - no patient complained, no direct medical advice was given. Yet they charged him with professional misconduct against patients. And to make things even to more absurd than they are AW was a researcher, didn't even see patients etc.


Funnier and funnier, but lets get distracted some more from the real fraud that went on at the CDC ...

Yes, the anti-vax "movement" was around long before Wakefield did his research and was punished for it. It's interesting that no parents complained and many of them testified in support of him and his research when the GMC was railroading him. Some of them even told him they believed vaccination had caused their child's autism. Like many research papers, his did not come to the conclusion that vaccines cause autism. He said it might, in some cases, and the subject needed more research. This is the scenario the GMC sought to squelch - more research. Wakefield concluded, in addition to saying more research is needed, that the number of vaccines in one shot, the age of the child and the thimerasol in them could all be possibilities, and combinations of those factors could also.

In the US, the Feds quietly acknowledged the possible and potential damage of vaccines when the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed in 1986. There was enough evidence to support the passage of NCVIA then and the flurry of "research" the vaccine industry came up with to counter it is reminiscent of the flurry of CDC "research" proving ME/CFS is all in our heads.

When there is a political and economic agenda, there have always been "scientists" who find what they are being paid to find. Who has the big bucks for paying for the research findings they want?
 

natasa778

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In the US, the Feds quietly acknowledged the possible and potential damage of vaccines when the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed in 1986. There was enough evidence to support the passage of NCVIA then and the flurry of "research" the vaccine industry came up with to counter it is reminiscent of the flurry of CDC "research" proving ME/CFS is all in our heads.


I just spotted this comment elsewhere. This thing is getting very interesting indeed:


There are five authors listed on the manipulated study - Frank DeStefano, Tanya Karapurkar-Bhasin, William Thompson, Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop, and Coleen Boyle. The CDC lists a total of ten studies they've conducted "disproving" a link between vaccines and autism or neurological damage. DeStefano co-authored three others and Thompson was involved in one other.

Additionally, known fraud and international fugitive Poul Thorsen co-authored one and Thomas Verstraetem, whose own emails admitted a link, authored another.

Ten studies, at least seven of which were co-authored by scientists who knowingly participated in data manipulation.


"Science has spoken" with a forked tongue.
 

natasa778

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Researcher who dispelled vaccine-autism link: “Most-wanted fugitive”


... CDC employed Thorsen as a visiting scientist from Denmark prior to awarding grants to Denmark to fund “research involving the relationship between autism and the exposure to vaccines” and other disabilities. Thorsen is accused of diverting over $1 million of CDC grant money, public funds, for his personal use...


Coincidentally this guy worked at Aarhus University (Karina Hansen 'psychosomatic' tormentors?) while committing this fraud and conducting the study
 

natasa778

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Latest development in the saga http://vimeo.com/user5503203/review/108522744/186711a23b

It looks like CDC fraud and corruption goes even deeper than initially thought!!

If this all verified Colin Boyle et al. belong firmly behind bars, not to mention her then-boss Julie Gerberding (who few years after this happened became Director of Merck vaccine division, yes you heard that right).
 
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Dufresne

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I've noticed PBS has re-aired its NOVA and Frontline pro-vaccination episodes since this story broke. :p

I haven't been following the blogs for lack of energy and time, but I'm wondering if activists are coming together with a plan to get to the bottom of this issue.
 

cigana

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The public will never know about this, since the intelligence services control the media. And I understand why - this is an important national security issue.
But I hope that researchers who have their ears to the ground can at least use the knowledge in guiding them to find a cause or treatment.
 

natasa778

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Truth in Media News report, 26 January 2016:

http://truthinmedia.com/cdc-vaccines-autism-coverup/


... in this episode of Truth In Media, the focus is not on whether vaccines are responsible for autism. The issue at hand here is a study that was performed at the CDC and the question of whether the agency was complicit in a cover-up over a decade ago.
...
In this episode, Swann further examines not only Thompson’s claims, but also the documents related to the study, with the assistance of doctors, journalists, authors and former CDC specialists who joined Swann in discussing every document that was handed over.
 

*GG*

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The public will never know about this, since the intelligence services control the media. And I understand why - this is an important national security issue.

But I hope that researchers who have their ears to the ground can at least use the knowledge in guiding them to find a cause or treatment.

How is this a National Security issue? Woudn't more able bodied/healthy people be in a Nations interest instead of lots of sick people being a "drain"?

GG
 

cigana

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How is this a National Security issue? Woudn't more able bodied/healthy people be in a Nations interest instead of lots of sick people being a "drain"?
I think the state fears more the outbreak of contagious killer diseases, unfortunately.
 

SilverbladeTE

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Lol the intelligence agencies are NOT there to protect the nation!
They are there to maintain the status quo and keep the Elite in power, and to keep themselves in a job and pension, they create problems like ISIS to do so
For God's sake please read up on what the gits have got up to!


In Northern ireland, the U.K.s MI5 agency set up recording systems in a children's home that had been taken over and used by powerful paedophiles
That is RECORDED AND EXPOSED FACT, Kincora boys home scandal
A military intelligence officer who tried to stop the abuse was warned to drop it, others have been threatened by the Official Secrets Act or at gunpoint, at least 7 people have been assassinated to cover up these crimes

Iran-Contra,
Overthrowing the democratic peaceful governments in Iran and Chile that resulted in blodbaths and problems to this day in Iran's case, it was Americans who first set up concentration/torture camps there
Murder of US biochem expert Frank Olson
The "suicide" of the reporter who exposed the CIA were running cocaine into America
Etc etc
 

SilverbladeTE

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I think the state fears more the outbreak of contagious killer diseases, unfortunately.
Wrong wrong wrong!

The State fears any damn thing that it doesnt control,
The bureacrats and politicians fear having to DO something, get of their arses and fix things, are you kidding? :p
they fear any upset of their applecart,
They hatefuly refuse to spend money on citizens but love spending it on killing and things they get kickbacks for
 

cigana

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Lol the intelligence agencies are NOT there to protect the nation!
They are there to maintain the status quo and keep the Elite in power, and to keep themselves in a job and pension, they create problems like ISIS to do so
For God's sake please read up on what the gits have got up to!


In Northern ireland, the U.K.s MI5 agency set up recording systems in a children's home that had been taken over and used by powerful paedophiles
That is RECORDED AND EXPOSED FACT, Kincora boys home scandal
A military intelligence officer who tried to stop the abuse was warned to drop it, others have been threatened by the Official Secrets Act or at gunpoint, at least 7 people have been assassinated to cover up these crimes

Iran-Contra,
Overthrowing the democratic peaceful governments in Iran and Chile that resulted in blodbaths and problems to this day in Iran's case, it was Americans who first set up concentration/torture camps there
Murder of US biochem expert Frank Olson
The "suicide" of the reporter who exposed the CIA were running cocaine into America
Etc etc
Yeah I know what the gits have got up to ;) But they don't want to die from a contagious disease either...
 

SilverbladeTE

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Yeah I know what the gits have got up to ;) But they don't want to die from a contagious disease either...

but they are "Elite" they generally don't fear such things as they really do believe they are "above" such, it's social mentality issue
for example, look at how they behaved with AIDS

one of the ironies is the greedy sick system that's consumed America helped let Tuberculosis spread and become resistant, resulting in some Wall Street and other "Elite" folks to get it from homeless folks and other sources.
A sane person would understand that risk and work to stop it, and do so in a humane, sensible way (not mass exterminations by direct or indirect means, "walling off" etc)
but, the society and mentality of the Elite...ye gods...just look at how the financial "traders" behave for example as recent film showed. They're self absorbed and out of touch to a cuckoo degree :p
 

Undisclosed

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Truth in Media News report, 26 January 2016:

http://truthinmedia.com/cdc-vaccines-autism-coverup/


... in this episode of Truth In Media, the focus is not on whether vaccines are responsible for autism. The issue at hand here is a study that was performed at the CDC and the question of whether the agency was complicit in a cover-up over a decade ago.
...
In this episode, Swann further examines not only Thompson’s claims, but also the documents related to the study, with the assistance of doctors, journalists, authors and former CDC specialists who joined Swann in discussing every document that was handed over.

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2...ead-balloon-of-misinformation/#comment-428167