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CDC replication study delayed in order to prepare a press release?!

Discussion in 'XMRV Research and Replication Studies' started by awol, May 28, 2010.

  1. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member

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    I'm not so keen on the work of clinicians.

    Judy Chalder's work seems heavily based upon her time with patients, and I prefer a more detached view. It's too eeasy to let your personal feelings influence your beliefs about patients.
  2. julius

    julius Watchoo lookin' at?

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    False patient beliefs. Hmmm....sounds like they need some CBT. Or maybe GUT (graded unemployment therapy).
  3. V99

    V99 *****

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    graded unemployment therapy - isn't that what jailbirds do, with rocks
  4. julius

    julius Watchoo lookin' at?

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    As long as they're unemployed I'll be happy.
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    They just don't "want" to get better. :sad: They enjoy having their lives and careers destroyed and getting attention from an antagonistic, demeaning doctor's office visit for 10 minutes once every six months or year or two (which they would have times a few hundred thousand or million or billion if they were in the workforce every day, interacting in the world like normal people again). Hmm, wait a minute...
  6. awol

    awol *****

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    Esther12,

    With the supposedly objective view, we get Weesley and Huber and the Dutch fraudsters. With the clinicians we get Klimas, Peterson, Bell, Cheney and countless others. They are not expert researchers, but I would take the second group any day. Remember, noone is actually entirely objective. Identifying with the patient is far preferable to treating the real affected people with contempt.
  7. julius

    julius Watchoo lookin' at?

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    Uh...hang on. Esther12 I thought you were talking about the Wesseley school whack jobs. Who is Judy Chalder then?
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    I think the correct name is Professor Trudie Chalder. She's a member of the Wessely school & is affiliated with Kings College, London.
  9. julius

    julius Watchoo lookin' at?

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    Ok, that's what I thought. CBT and GUT for all of them then!!
  10. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member

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    Good catch. Thanks.

    I suck at names.
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    Hi JT1024

    I like this view, and have though along similar lines. They may be waiting to be able to give a definitive answer on when someone can start mass distribution of blood test kits to the blood banks, so as to minimize panic.

    Bye
    Alex


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    Hi anciendaze,

    Is it possible the message has to go all the way up to the top and then down again? Is the BP fiasco delaying things then?

    Bye
    Alex
  13. usedtobeperkytina

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    Well, I have seen lots of names on research papers about CFS since October, and not just XmRV stuff. I think we have lots of researchers that believe us and fewer clinicians. As said, only those clinicians that see a bunch of it day in and day out, see the pattern.

    But, we do need more researchers. But I think the researchers, who read all the other studies, are ahead in their understanding of the illness compared to the GP on main street.

    Tina
  14. anciendaze

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    That is entirely possible. With the BP problem unresolved, plus fears about a meltdown in international finance, and lots of bruised egos after the battle over health care ready to take out frustration on someone, this is not the best time to bring up another problem affecting millions of people with no apparent solution ready. Confidence in leaders and institutions is low. (Even Tipper has lost confidence in Al, what next?)

    On the plus side, this is a great opportunity to show leaders getting ahead of the general public in averting potential disaster. I don't think the silence can hold more than about two weeks, so I'm not terribly concerned with consequences of this delay.
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    This thread is so long, so I may have missed something, but is the CDC announcement literally canceled or postponed? Anybody know for sure, or does anyone have a guess as to when it might be?
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    Stone, noone knows anything, sorry.

    Tina,

    With you on that.
  17. IamME

    IamME Too sick for an identity

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    Chalder / BP

    Chalder is just a (mental health) nursey, she doesn't know what she's talking about, but she wrangled a Professorship for use of peacock language and logical non-sequiturs from her master, das Wiesel.

    Re the oil spill tragedy: I wonder how long it will be before the oleaginous one gets money thrown at him by BP in order to tell people to stop making a fuss over the spill, quit whining and get back to work. He trundled out after 9/11 to tell people the dust was "safe".
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    May I ask what do you mean by "BP"?
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    I believe it's in reference to British Petroleum and the oil spill; that's capturing a lot of resources and attention.
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    Thanks. Yes, Petroleum is a difficult word to write (therefore I copied and pasted it now... :D).

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