CD8 CD56 CD3 high CD4 low

[Daffodil]

high CD8 means virus

 

[Aidan Walsh]

Hi,

I had some pathology done, and it clearly concerned my specialist but I'm not entirely sure I understand it. My lymphocytes are normal 2.4x10*9/L (range 1.0-4.0) but the proportions are off: CD3 is 84 (range 60-82); CD4 is 29 (range 34-55); CD8 is 51 (range 19-42); and CD56 is 25 (range 1-15). Neutrophils were 5.3 (range 1.8-7.7) monocytes 0.6 (range 0.1 - 0.8) eosinophils 0.3 ( <0.6) and basophils 0.1 (<0.3). So it would seem, from what I have been able to work out, or think I have, that my immune system is normally active but killing infected cells rather than using antibodies etc.

I know from http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...lls-perforin-and-glutathione-depletion.17603/ that people with CFS tend to have less effective CD8s and CD56s and was thinking that that could be the cause, but I can also see that other people have generally reported high CD4/CD8 ratios.

Does anyone have any ideas or, better still, knowledge?

Thanks

Hashimotos? Histamine Intolerance Low Dao enzyme? SIBO? Mast Cell Activation Disorder? Systemic Mastocytosis? Internal Ionisation Radiation Injuries broken cromosones/translocations? must all be ruled out entirely

even Hashimotos can make immune system go out of wack...avoid synthetic thyroid meds they are useless in CFS lean towards natural desicated thyroid check (T3) levels plus low a.m. cortisol low dose hydrocortisone www.hypothyroidmom.com plus www.stopthemadness.com See a good Functional Doctor as well...Rule out Parathyroid tumors www.parathyroid.com this can wipe you out as well even Normocalcium levels could still be parathyroid issues or rule out thyroid tumors...

 

[Richard7]

Thanks Aidan, I may take a while to work my way through enough of this to say anything worthwhile but the thyroid stuff looks interesting.

 

[Aidan Walsh]

high CD8 means virus

Could also mean radiation sickness I know 15 cohort patients urine sample all are Positives to radiation isotopes do any of you honestly thing that the full truth will come out now on the true possible cause I doubt that very much do your own Private investigations then file lawsuits for full damages from the Private sides of Law file Commercial Liens through UCC Commercial Laws...

 

[Richard7]

Aidan, I have no reaon to think radiation likely. I like in a country that has one nuclear reactor and a few uranium mines, but the reactor is 500km away and the mines are thousands of kilometres away. I know hospitals use radioactive isotopes and expect that all parties involved are just as incautious at dealing with nuclear waste as they are with all other environmental issues, so its possible but the other possibilities seem a better place to start.

I have been reading the adrenal stuff on or linked to by stopthethyroidmadness.com and about the links between low thyroid and anxiety and think that this might be worth pursuing with my GP while I wait to see the specialist again. I can be patient about some things but anxiety is not one of them.

 

[Aidan Walsh]

Aidan, I have no reaon to think radiation likely. I like in a country that has one nuclear reactor and a few uranium mines, but the reactor is 500km away and the mines are thousands of kilometres away. I know hospitals use radioactive isotopes and expect that all parties involved are just as incautious at dealing with nuclear waste as they are with all other environmental issues, so its possible but the other possibilities seem a better place to start.

I have been reading the adrenal stuff on or linked to by stopthethyroidmadness.com and about the links between low thyroid and anxiety and think that this might be worth pursuing with my GP while I wait to see the specialist again. I can be patient about some things but anxiety is not one of them.

One does not have to live 500 km. from any Nuclear reactor once a spill occurs it then goes up into the clouds & into the rain the reason I say Radiation quite alot is Research is pointing towards this possibilty it can also enter into the food supplies Dan Peterson is involved with Austrailin team that work on radiation I even heard reports that the blood

is glowing somehow radiation so to say it is not Radiation or doubts is now up to Science some highly qualified experts in this field believe Radiation is the cause even David Bell is working now in this field his own son also has his job in the Radiation field as well I know for a fact Gail Kanky's Medical board are convinced it is Radiation making

us sick our symptoms are no differebt than the Chernobyl victims but obvious they got much higher doses of it than others miles away...I am presently following Dr. Coimbra's protocol on high doses of Vitamin D3 it could be also possible that this 'master' hormone could be doing something to radiation as well I no longer have any pain nor

headaches I sleep like a baby no anxiety I am still waiting to see if I can rule out SIBO gut infections as well I am still IGM Positive to Lyme IGG Negative but standards for testing in U.K. are completely useless so I do not trust this test at all I have never yet had the Myamotoi Lyme test so I do not know if I am a Positive or not...Radiation cannot yet be

ruled out especially when everyone of a cohort are Positives not 80 or 90% but all of them some have now died...I am not one to put fear or anxiety into anyone but the Science now is pointing towards radiation now we all have Japan to deal with plus I

know within Russia there was a disaster that was bigger than Chernobyl was & the entire World was kept in the total dark about this in the meantime I would never ever take any Xrays or CT Sans ever again or even any radiation for any type of Cancer...I pray & hope it is not Radiation that would be a blessing but at the same time if it is Radiation

then for anyone of us going forward it must be ruled out 100% that not one of us has this, could CFS/Fibro M.S. Lyme or Gulf War illness be Radiation yes that is very plausible to me it would explain why the CDC/NIH has downplayed this illness now for decades but make no mistake about this if it proves to be Radiation injuries I will file

a Private Commercial Lien on them all for damages...I do not think Gail Kanky's team is wrong & the Scientists involved are convinced it is this but time will tell us all the full truth remember the Nuclear Industry has a vested interst in keeping this from everyone it would actually bankrupt this completely....As far as Thyroid being possibly

Hypo yes that could be but Radiation is known to attach to theThyroid & that's a fact...Anything in this Monster illness is a possibility plus numerous patients are pushed into a waste basket diagnosis of different illnesses when they are suffering from something that could be treatable the old thing in Medicine is blame the patient or they are crazy well I

got news for all of them Lawsuits will be forthcoming for the total neglect & UCC Liens are actually arrest Warrants in Commerce I have see the power that they have I am not waiting on no FDA/NIH/CDC for answers that will never

come even Governments can be served with Liens including the entire Nuclear Industry & General Electric...I am fed up just like you & I intend to sue make no mistake about that 100% p.s. Vitamin D3 is a master hormone I would rather any day to take this instead of any thyroid medicines even Pig's Thyroid they all say it works but majority of

them are liars it does not make people well there is more to Thyroid & majority of them are in denial they want something easy to fix they cannot accept Radiation it is the same for majority who run with now a stupid Lyme diagnosis which is more pure bullshit lies none of those tests are accurate they give out more false Positives & that

is a fact...Me, I follow the Science plus I pay attention to any patients who have success stories not Doctors who come out every week with potions that never work even ones who push antiviral lies...This is not a virus nor is it a

bacteria 'that' has never ever been proven Science needs to get off their asses before they all fall down like 'dominos' by the way those 2 shrinks in the U.K. I will be adding their asses as
well to this Lien Lawsuit I will be coming for all of their moveables any savings stocks bonds

houses cars etc. etc. 'everything' they have laughed at us long enough watch & see it will be done the Vatican bankrupted Poland with a Lien when they refused to let the Pope return to his homeland I no longer deal with CDC/NIH b.s. lies I now will sue their asses once & for all then I

will fund Private truthful research 's Seriously...G-8 Countries CDC/NIH/FDA Nuclear Industry/General Electric plus 2 shrinks U.K. are going on this Lien so Help me God I just might add the Vatican as well afterall they Control the vast amounts of Commercial Laws on this planet

'including' the Federal Reserve as well...Watch now what I will do I am not one to fcuk with anymore I mean business in Commerce I don't play games 'not their cover-up games' either 's