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Brave Sir Prof Wessely discusses death threats 29th March 2017

Discussion in 'Action Alerts and Advocacy' started by Countrygirl, Mar 1, 2017.

  1. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    Anyone going???? :)


    https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/standing-up-for-science-a-panel-discussion-tickets-32226341856

    General Admission Price: £8 (incl. wine reception)
     
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  2. Aurator

    Aurator Senior Member

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    Whine reception, more like.
     
  3. Barry53

    Barry53 Senior Member

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    In SW's case they obviously got a bit confused. Must have meant "overcoming evidence to talk about presumption".
     
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  4. AndyPR

    AndyPR I'm a DAD, I Donate, Advocate and Demonstrate

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    Brave Sir Simon rides forth...
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  5. TigerLilea

    TigerLilea Senior Member

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    Simon Wessely is going to look like an absolute fool once medical science finally figures out what CFS/ME is. I think he likes the attention all of his nonsense brings him.
     
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  6. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    I would never condone death threats, but if you create evidence to suit your own beliefs, it is hardly surprising that the people who are negatively affected by that become aggressive.

    You reap what you sow.
     
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  7. keenly

    keenly Senior Member

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    WOW how embarrassing.

    Bullies pretending to be bastions of moral integrity. Typical.
     
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  8. keenly

    keenly Senior Member

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    Establishment shills do not get death threats. Those who stand up to the Establishment do, and many end up dead. Simon is a sociopath.
     
  9. Research 1st

    Research 1st Severe ME, Severe POTS

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    Is this a genuine image? I am writing the following believe it is genuine.....

    What a disgusting and offensive image this is to people with CFS and ME, diseases increasingly
    being shown to be autoimmune in nature, of which at least an estimated 1 in 4 are housebound and some even die of their disease in extreme cases (usually young adults who became very disabled as children or teenagers).

    On the grounds this image was produced with permission of Sense about Science and Goldsmiths University of London, to use their logo's, then they need to be informed about the level of distress this image causes and given an opportunity to remove it, and apologize.

    Other than the fact it's graphic design is blatantly sensationalist and remiscent of soviet communist propaganda, here is why this image is not acceptable when doctors are involved:

    If as a UK doctor registered with the GMC your name was on this poster, never mind giving a 'talk':
    1) Against a sexual minority (LGBT) you would be reprimanded immediately.
    2) Against a faith group such as Jew or Muslim, you would be reprimanded immediately.
    3) Against a disabled group, you would be reprimanded immediately.

    But if you do this against CFS sufferers? You win awards, it seems.

    Disability hatred, is what it is.

    If anyone knows how to contact Peter Tatchell on Twitter (I don't have an account), please let him know and screen grab this fyler image or link it, before the URL is pulled by the person responsible.

    https://twitter.com/petertatchell

    I am genuinely appalled, and someone with the ability and guts needs to discuss this awful image on Youtube and other social media such as CFS groups on Facebook to show how people diagnosed with ME CFS are treated with utter disdain and disgust, by doctors. The very people paid to protect patients.

    Example of how doctors sensibly protect patients in the UK and developed world:

    *Sufferers of Schizophrenia (during a psychotic break) are known to disembowel, torture and eat people and they are NEVER targeted by the medical profession in such a filthy manner as being allegedly ''dangerous'' to other people.

    Example of how doctors sensibly protect those of faith groups:


    *British medical students (Muslims) have been found to be fighting for a terrorist group - ISIS, in Syria and taken out by RAF drones. Ergo some British medical students who are Muslim are helping terrorists. British medics were also involved in previous terrorist attacks on the UK.

    Why does this matter and how is this relevant to CFS?

    Sane people with access to the press and academic insituations (such as universities) are aware, these people exampled above are individuals, ergo there is no perpetual propaganda campaign against sufferers of Schizophrenia or British medical students - promoting them as dangerous. It simply wouldn't be allowed. So why is it allowed against the CFS community, who even as individuals, have never harmed anyone?!

    This xenophobic discrimination of ME denial (anti disability hatred) must stop and stop before someone very psychologically vulnerable with ME CFS takes their own life out of despair.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/l...imination/#h-harassment-because-of-disability

    https://www.gov.uk/report-hate-crime

    As I've said, just imagine this image was about a religious or faith group- it would be illegal as it's spreading intolerance of patients as mentally unstable, who aren't even diagnosed with a mental illness!!!!!! Even if they were, targetting patients as 'dangerous' still breaks rules of the GMC code of conduct.

    http://www.gmc-uk.org/about/council/register_code_of_conduct.asp
    http://www.gmc-uk.org/publications/standards_guidance_for_doctors.asp
    http://www.gmc-uk.org/education/undergraduate/professional_behaviour.asp

    I'm shocked to see it, I expect it, but still shocked.

    What a sad situation this is. You can cross dress as a 6ft 5 bloke in a mini skirt and a wig and be given full protection in society, but you cannot have a crippling disease where you can become bedridden or housebound for life and afford the same protection.

    Someone needs to say, no. No more disability discrimination.
    Instead we get silence from the BMA, GMC, NICE, NHS and the Department of Health.

    No one paid to care about us, does care, because they don't have to care, because like Jimmy Saville there is a 'worry' about changing the status quo. If you are black or gay, you'll know what I mean.

    Society needs movements of people to evoke change. Movements of CFS patients can never become reality as they are too disabled to march on the streets.

    And so we need to turn to people who do care and use the rules set in places for other minorities to demand equal human rights in a developed western society that is meant to have high standards of human rights.

    That is all we ask.
     
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    I wonder if we are misunderstanding the poster and what it is saying is Wessely is going to talk about how he ran a smear campaign against ME patients leaving them threatened with dangerous treatments, no medical care and no benefits.
     
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    Cinders66 Senior Member

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    "who promote sound science and evidence on a matter of public interest, despite facing difficulty or hostility"

    Why is Wessely a recipient then?

    The uk act as if all scientists and scientific endeavour is beyond reproach, some of Wesselys writings play on The establishments disdain for patients not keeping in their place of being seen and not heard. Regardless of recent developments proving the fear/avoidance hypothesis wrong, it seems thought that Wessely should not have met any patient opposition? Death threats and nasty emails are another matter but the two are unfairly conflated by Wessely as one and the same whereas there's legitimate widespread vocal opposition to his approach to CFS and a probably tiny amount of actual personal threats and even then, judging by the supposed threat published in the BMJ which was actually a reworded Bob Dylan song lyric to war mongeurors including words "I hope you die", it's uncertain as to what are being called threats.
     
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    Cinders66 Senior Member

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    Can someone go?
     
  14. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    https://www.theguardian.com/science...s-awarded-2016-john-maddox-prize-false-memory

    Here is an article on one of the other panel members; Sir Prof SW is also described as one of the brave who had to endure death threats from people as he tried to promote the/ his truth. :aghhh: Under the heading @We can't let the bullies win.................by the way that is supposed be us..........:bang-head:

    Science editor

    Thursday 17
     
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  15. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    Before someone?????

    About ten or more people I have known personally over the years have taken their own lives because of the contempt with which they are treated by the medical profession. One was an assisted suicide. In fact, tomorrow the inquest is being held on a dear friend of 30 years who in total despair following the dismissal of the local medical profession took his life last August after suffering from the illness for ten months. Wessely and co in my opinion bear the blame for these unnecessary deaths...........and he has the cheek to talk of death threats. My friends are dead. His work and influence were more than a mere 'threat'.
     
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    keenly Senior Member

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    Oh I forgot PSYCHIATRY IS NOT A SCIENCE. It is pure quackery. E. Ernst is a low life parasite.

    These men are not genuine. Always remember that. They are literal Pharma shills.
     
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    unfortunately I'm washing my hair that night
     
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  18. Jonathan Edwards

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    I think he will look a fool sooner than that. But I need to be discreet.

    He reminds me a bit of Sir Brian Botany (AA Milne). Maybe not the last verse.
     
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    Binkie4 Senior Member

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    He reminds me a bit of Sir Brian Botany (AA Milne). Maybe not the last verse.

    Can we know which duck pond, ditch and waterfall to watch? I don't want to miss it.

    @Jonathan Edwards
     
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  20. Barry53

    Barry53 Senior Member

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    I think we may just have to be patient :)
     
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