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bottled vs. Filtered water. Thoughts on which contaminants worst for CFS?

Discussion in 'Addressing Biotoxin, Chemical & Food Sensitivities' started by hubcap_halo, May 26, 2010.

  1. ggingues

    ggingues $10 gift code at iHerb GAS343 of $40

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    Don't drink the water in DC!
     
  2. Dainty

    Dainty Senior Member

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    Okay, to address the environmental concerns: my first responsibility is to my own health, and I believe others shoudl apply this philosophy as well. If the best thing for your health means your carbon footprint will be a little bigger, then that's just the way things will have to be. Of course, if someone feels called to minimize environmental impact at the expense of their health then that's their business. But no one should be pressured into such a sacrifice.

    I currently use filtered water, but am experimenting with glass-bottled spring water, the primary reason being that I have severe MCS and this page has recommendations of recovery from that. Drinking spring water was the one thing on the list I don't do, so I find it worth looking into, and I don't live in an area where I can get it a different way.

    First the filters. I'm quite sensitive to chlorine...a tap barely running in another room and I feel like I'm choking on clorine fumes (even in a blinded test) so filters are important to me. I use a Whirlpool undersink filter for drinking water and an Aquasana shower filter for the shower. I consider the shower filter just as if not more important than the drinking water filter, because you're absorbing stuff both through your skin and inhaling it in the water droplets.

    At one point I tried a whole house filter, but I appeared to react to the resulting water. No idea why or how. I cannot find it to tell you the name right now. Might try it again in the future just to be sure, but you all know how that goes...

    I'm not sure what I think of reverse osmosis water. This article makes some good points about some health concerns connected with drinking it. Besides potentially causing mineral deficiencies (which can be avoided if you ocnsciously remedy the lakc of minerals) it makes the water acidic, which can have negative effects as well. But the most interesting thing to me is:

    We know the pharmeceutical drugs are present in small amounts in city water, to varying degrees depending on which city. If you want to try to avoid those, not even a reverse osmosis filter will do the job. So know what you're getting.

    Now about bottled water. I realize that many kinds of bottled water are no better than tap water....some of them even are tap water, just with fancy packaging. :tongue: However, that isn't to say they're all like that. Do the research. Spring water can be contaminated, too, so that's important to be aware of as well. Since I'm just now looking into it I don't have a whole lot of information on this, but I'll be testing it out and seeing what I can find. I'm only considering glass bottled water at this time, which is available in the USA, just not very common.
     
  3. Athene

    Athene Never give up

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    water....some of them even are tap water, just with fancy packaging. (quote from Dainty)

    Where do you guys live to get this garbage?
    Don't they have to label clearly stating if it's purified water or spring water?
    In Italy mineral water comes from deep mountain springs. There is a full chemical analysis on the label by law, stating what spring it came from, the full mineral and biological analysis, pH at source temperature, etc etc.
    Coca cola sells bottled tapwater, apparently, but they have to label it "purified water" and I have never seen it in any shop here. Nobody would buy it.
     
  4. Dainty

    Dainty Senior Member

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    It would appear that other countries have more stringent bottling laws than the USA.

    According to this article from the Organic Consumers Association there's the potential for bottled water here to be less pure than tap water:

    The article goes on to talk about various studies that found things like arsenic, byproducts of chlorination, toluene, fluoride, nitrate, chloroform, and lead, higher counts of bacteria and some even exceeding federal standards for pthalate levels. Testing and labeling standards are lax, to say the least.

    Now I'm not trying to scare everyone away from bottled water; as the article states, in general bottled water is safe to drink. But those with compromised immune systems, like us, might want to think twice before deciding to go that route. It isn't necessarily dangerous, it's just largely unregulated, which simply means enter at your own risk and be smart about it. :Retro smile:

    ....and I think I've succeeded in contradicting myself. :tear:

    *Emphasis added.
     
  5. Cort

    Cort Phoenix Rising Founder

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    There are some spring waters that I just do terrible with. I tend to do very well with filtered water (tap water that's been filtered) from the store or from water stores in the areas. Some parts of the country do have pretty good water. Southern California and Las Vegas have very poor water. I'd love to get a under the faucet filtering system at some point. Right now I go to the water station and drag the bottles back and forth. I use glass to store my water.
     
  6. Athene

    Athene Never give up

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    Dainty,
    My hair is standing on end after reading your quotes. E Coli! Water from a well! Industrial contamination!
    OMG.
     
  7. aiden424

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    I use the Apec reverse osmosis.

    Kathy
     
  8. taniaaust1

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    Some countries put fluoride in their water... so id think about having that tested too.

    Also chlorine (i can smell that in my cities tap water, that reeks, tap water tastes like swimming pool to me hence i cant drink it. Ive noticed that many peoples water filters dont tend to filter it out too well)
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    Bottled water is a lot of the time not as good as tap water which has a good filter on it. (I tend to taste the plastic in the water at times, so bottled water must get the plastic toxins too).

    reverse osmosis water.. I've had that and liked that.
     
  9. hubcap_halo

    hubcap_halo

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    Thank you Dreambirdie. 5 gallon glass bottles! You are a water warrior. I once lived next to a co-op that offered refills of reverse osmosis water and I used glass bottles too. I will look in that filter you are using. Thank you!
     
  10. hubcap_halo

    hubcap_halo

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    You are wise to get that good quality water and drink it from glass bottles. I hope you can get that under-the-sink filtration system soon.
     
  11. hubcap_halo

    hubcap_halo

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    Thanks Sushi. Do you take a specific multi-mineral supplement to replace minerals?

    Sushi,

    Reverse Osmosis water seems to be coming up as a very healthy choice. Was a specific supplement that supplies the minerals you need recommended to you? I'd love to know what that is.
    Thank you. Hope you are feeling well.
     
  12. Sallysblooms

    Sallysblooms P.O.T.S. now SO MUCH BETTER!

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    From everything I have read RO water like Distilled is not able to take bad stuff and keep the good minerals. I am expecting my Berkey any minute. I was hoping it would come yesterday. I need to call them.

    The Berkey keeps the good minerals and purifies the water without having to rely on electricity. They are wonderful in emergencies. Portable also.
     
  13. aiden424

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    I tried the aquasana filter but the water tasted terrible, kind of salty. I called the company and they said it was because I had a water softner. Since salt is a natural mineral it would not remove it. Well I don't want to drink what ever is in my water softner salt. It also doesn't remove fluoride either since it's a natural mineral too. I decided to go with the Apec reverese osmosis instead.

    Kathy
     
  14. minimus

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    For what its worth, Paul Cheney is recommending that patients drink about a liter of bottled water from Iceland each day.

    The reason is that Icelandic bottled water "tests positive" on echocardiogram (i.e. if a patient drinks a bit of this water while his/her heart function is being measured through the echocardiography machine, parameters improve ever so slightly. With distilled water, echo parameters actually decline. With other bottled waters and tap water, there is no change in echo parameters.)

    Most pharmacies and supermarkets in New York stock bottled water from Iceland at around $1.40 a liter. What strikes me is that Icelandic bottled water is quite alkaline (pH of 8 or higher). It is also supposed to be quite pure, although I wonder if the recent volcanic eruption in Iceland will contaminate its spring water.

    I have been drinking the stuff for about a month and can't say it has made any difference to how I feel.
     
  15. hubcap_halo

    hubcap_halo

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    I, in no way, feel overwhelmed by all these choices.

    Seriously, thank you one and all for so much good info on the best ways to get good water into our bodies.
     

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