Jonathan Edwards
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It seems that the recommendation is to lie. The symptoms are unexplained but the management is to provide a 'tangible explanation'.
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Somebody has been guzzling from the Edward Shorter Memorial Kool-Aid Barrel.and explain that no underlying medical condition has been identified and is unlikely to exist.
How can anyone be awarded a PhD on the basis of such abysmally narrow 'research'?
PhDs these days are awarded on the basis of several primary investigations (of modest scope as PhDs don't have access to much money), a meta-analysis or systematic review and if they're lucky, assist with some other research led by others with greater impact.
PhDs have to do what their supervisors tell them to do. This is just par for the course. It's the leaders in the field who should be criticised for their acceptance of uncontrolled studies as evidence.
What has happened to scientific curiosity? And integrity?
As usual this embeds the most basic logical error/assumption into everything else that hangs off of it.
- Persistent unexplained physical symptoms—Physical symptoms existing for ≥3 months not sufficiently explained by an underlying medical condition after adequate examination and investigation2
- Somatoform disorders—Psychiatric disorders (DSM-IV, ICD-10) with persistent unexplained physical symptoms as key factor6
- Undifferentiated somatoform disorder—One or more physical symptoms without medical explanation with clinically significant suffering or functional impairment, existing for ≥6 months6
- Functional somatic syndrome—A combination of unexplained physical symptoms occurring together (such as irritable bowel syndrome or chronic fatigue syndrome)
I agree that the blame lies almost entirely with the supervisor who sets such a narrow reading list, researchers who do uncontrolled studies, and publishers who publish them and publish articles like this one.
The thing that saddens and worries me, for the PhD student, is the apparent lack of curiosity.
I am trying to imagine myself in such a position, and hoping I would have explored more widely. Even just googling the conditions specifically mentioned - CFS, FM and IBS would have raised loads of issues that a good researcher should explore - biomedical research, patient support groups and what they say, etc.
What has happened to scientific curiosity? And integrity?
But then of course, the student may have done this, and been told firmly to stick to the supervisor's orthodoxy if they want to get their PhD and get papers published, such is the narrow world some academics live in.
More recently there seems to be a trend for a PhD to be given for someone who can wrap up a few papers into a thesis. I think this doesn't provide a good grounding in understanding what it takes to do research in a given field. Part of the value of a PhD is in writing up you have to think about methodology etc and hence reflect on how research can be done.
The way this is phrased makes it look like an afterthought - something the reviewers asked for. The "focused" part makes it clear these authors believe that you shouldn't got too far here. We shouldn't indulge patients' beliefs that they have a physical illness!paper said:"...perform a focused but thorough physical examination"
I saw the same interview, @TigerLilea. Astonishing to hear such Victorian ideas coming out of the mouth of a 21st century doctor!No, it's the middle aged, married women whose children didn't turn out as she had hoped, and doesn't feel fulfilled by her marriage. I heard a British psychiatrist say this once in an interview.
Yea, ironically, this actually puts the article a quality level above the PACE articles. where issues of bias and lack of blinding are not recognised as problems.The only good thing I can see coming out of this is that, at least they conclude that the research evidence for treatments, both antidepressant and CBT and other psychological therapies is so poor as to be almost non-existent.
MUPS were positively associated with HCU over 2 years (medical services: RR 1.020, 95 % CI 1.017-1.022; contacts: RR 1.037, 95 % CI 1.030-1.044). Neuroticism and depression had the strongest influence on the associations. After adjustment for these factors, the associations between MUPS and HCU weakened, but remained significant (services: RR 1.011, 95 % CI 1.008-1.014; contacts: RR 1.023, 95 % CI 1.015-1.032).
This sort of paper needs a medically unexplained punch in the face.
Well they do have to rule out anything that might kill us within 6 months of the psychosomatic diagnosis. If patients died that fast, it would be awfully embarrassing for the quacksThe "focused" part makes it clear these authors believe that you shouldn't got too far here. We shouldn't indulge patients' beliefs that they have a physical illness!
Enhanced care by general practitioners comprises reattribution—where symptoms are reframed, making the link to presumed underlying psychological problems—and cognitive behavioural therapy. A Cochrane review on enhanced care (6 RCTs, 1787 participants) found no significant effect on quality of life in terms of physical and mental health and severity of physical symptoms
Who said the enhanced quality of life was that of the patient?
I know, I know! Even the claim that these patients are a "drain on healthcare" rests on the assumption that they don't need any actual healthcare. In other words, their probablem is psychological, not medical.They talk about excessive healthcare utilisation. Such utilisations stems from the lack of patients needs being met - the fact is if quality of life or physical symptoms do not improve, the underlying needs are not being met and hence the healthcare utilisation will continue until any resolution is found - just with the help of more sympathetic medical practitioners.
I know, I know! Even the claim that these patients are a "drain on healthcare" rests on the assumption that they don't need any actual healthcare. In other words, their probablem is psychological, not medical.
If you thought a person had a serious chronic illness that was not being treated, you'd never accuse them of "overutilisation" when they persist in their attempts to get treatment!
Well they do have to rule out anything that might kill us within 6 months of the psychosomatic diagnosis. If patients died that fast, it would be awfully embarrassing for the quacks
I thought if you didn't return after 6 months a quack considers you cured.Well they do have to rule out anything that might kill us within 6 months of the psychosomatic diagnosis. If patients died that fast, it would be awfully embarrassing for the quacks
Enhanced care by general practitioners comprises reattribution