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Black Seed Extract 'Cures' HIV Patient Naturally

Discussion in 'Antivirals, Antibiotics and Immune Modulators' started by adreno, Aug 21, 2014.

  1. adreno

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  2. Valentijn

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    This one might actually be on to something. One of the compounds in Black Seed is Thrymoquinone, which has a pretty good record in treating various problems. It supposedly acts as an HDAC (histone deacetylase) inhibitor. HDAC inhibitors have been effective against HIV in vitro, with a larger study recently funded to give an HDAC inhibitor a try in vivo.
     
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    A less biochemic comment on Nigella Sativa that I found in a Swedish article by pharmacists:

    "A cure for every disease except for death "
    Traditional Arabian medicine"

    Thanks @adreno and @Valentijn . Maybe this is THE cure for us too :)
     
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    I have known many Islamic people who believe literally that black seed will cure everything. I think its in the Koran or Hadith. Not very scientific I know, but interesting. I think that's why I never tried it- don't believe in cure-alls, but it could be another helpful piece in the puzzle.
     
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  6. Helen

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    Sometimes I recall that I hadn´t been living today if not my ancestors had trusted their ancestors, trial and errors and observations. Science, that I highly respect, didn´t keep us alive though. Who knows what Nigella Sativa could bring to Western people ;).
     
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  7. JAM

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    I've had great success using it for skin issues. I take it everyday in capsule form and apply it topically for the now very rare flare up.
     
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    Where do you find it? I want to try it.
     
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    I tried it. No changes. :(
     
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    @Ema

    how much did you take, which brand and for how long?

    I am interested in trying this.
     
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    One capsule once a day to prevent outbreaks. An extra capsule or two and topically when I feel an out break coming, usually stops it completely. I've been taking it for about a year and a half. My next experiment is going to be adding it to lotion bars, hopefully today or tomorrow. I just discovered how to make them and think the black seed will be an excellent addition.
     
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    A case study from the African Journal of Traditional, Complementary, and Alternative Medicine?

    This came out last year and it would be pretty surprising if there was anything to it.
     
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    At some point I was desperate and tried a bottle. Can't tell if it did anything, but by far the hardest thing to swallow I ever put in my mouth. Like ground up liquified concentrated pine needles. Get capsules.
     
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    too bad we are cutting down the rainforest and ruining the oceans..who knows what cures/treatments are lost.

    prostratin is made from a samoan tree bark and is in trials now i think for hiv

    i'm skeptical about this black seed story, though
     
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    It certainly hasn't cured the HHV-6/EBV, but the effects on my skin make taking it worth it for me. I'm also skeptical about the "cures HIV" thing.
     
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    Yeah, it's a non-reputable journal and just a case story, so not much to go on.

    However, it is not unlikely that there are natural compounds out there with anti-viral properties on par with pharmaceuticals.
     
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    I've had results on par with pharma anti-vitals with Olive Leaf Extract, without the liver damage. It seems like people give up on the herbs after a very short time thinking they aren't working, or because they are responding and the die-off is making them sick.
     
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    thanks for letting us know that. if i test positive for EBV and my doc doesnt want me on valtrex or famvir, i think i might add olive leaf extract. could i know the brand you are using? thanks!
     
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    This is the one I take.

    http://www.amazon.com/Barleans-Orga...1410894208&sr=8-2&keywords=olive leaf extract

    I've been taking it since May 3. The first few days I felt great, then horrible for almost 3 months, then great for 3 weeks, then bad for two, and now good again starting last night. It is a true two steps forward one step back thing. Research points to pharma anti-vitals taking an average of 2.8 years to bring viral loads down to a "healthy" level, so perspective is important. If you don't get sick after the first week, it probably isn't working. The getting sick is called a "herxing" and in essence is your body dealing with the "dead" virus. I have links for all of this, if I have time soon I will start another thread just for all the research I have.

    Some people have said that they didn't get a reaction with Barlean's, but did with a tincture or capsules. So if one doesn't work try another. Better imo to try and fail than to miss the one that finally hits. Goodness knows I tried dozens of herbs before this one, none of them hurt anything!
     

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