Dr. Goldstein was the first MD I sought out, also. I only went once, In the late 1990s, and stayed for three or four days. Such a unique experience, in many many ways. He Applied the pharmaceutical approaches he describes in the book via a trial and error methodology, and for us that traveled to see him, often trial and error methodology right there in the clinic. At the time, I was lacking medical knowledge about this disease, and so I never could figure out if he knew what he was doing. Nowadays, I realize he was on the cutting edge at the time. I suspect if he was still actively researching nowadays he would have some very different approaches. That's just my guess, Based on his personality and his trial and error methodology. A striking part of the experience was the waiting room. Since he didn't just see a patient and then you went home rather he would keep you there all day long, at least that's what happened with me and other people who it traveled to see him. I interacted and got to know other patients who were there at the same time. What an eye-opening experience for many of us in that room. I remember one couple I met..... She had ME/CFS And she was there with her husband who had recently retired as the head of a fortune 500 company. On the third day there, the husband remarked that this experience has been extremely good for him, because he just didn't really understand or essentially believe that his wife was so sick. But with this waiting room full of people who were either in severe pain or just laying around looking really sick and sleeping, he accepted everything about his wife's Illness. There also was a man who used to be a pilot for the airlines and had extremely painful headaches and went to see Dr. Goldstein four times a year for some extremely serious pain medication. I really felt for that fellow. At one point the husband cajoled myself and the airline pilot and another person into getting in his rental car (We Were the much more active patients) and going for a mile down to the town of Orange and going to a coffee shop so the husband could sit outside and smoke a cigar. He offered everybody who went a cigar, and although I didn't take one, it was certainly enjoyable to sit outside at the coffee shop and just be people and talk and joke and have interesting discussions instead of being sick people. I hope you'll realize what I'm saying, it's just sometimes good to get away from the disease and be a person. I could go on and on about that experience. I got pretty close and exchanged addresses with a young girl who was in college, and was constantly just laying down In the waiting room and she was really really sick, and one day Dr. Goldstein gave her some pill in about a half an hour later all of a sudden she started to come alive and for the next 24 hours she said I haven't felt like this for years And was So excited. After 24 hours, the effect went away and she was back to being very sick. It's been over 15 years since I've been there to see Dr. Goldstein, and I still haven't been to a medical doctor who had a clue. Dr. Goldstein was a clinician who was actively thinking and researching. A very, very rare commodity in the medical field.