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Best Mushrooms for NK cells ?

Discussion in 'Antivirals, Antibiotics and Immune Modulators' started by SunMoonsStars, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. SunMoonsStars

    SunMoonsStars Senior Member

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    Best mushrooms you know of for NK cells? I consulted with doc abroad and he gave me these two as best to try.
    Anyone tried these ?
    ABM (Agaricus blazei murill) &
    Poria cocos
     
  2. ebethc

    ebethc Senior Member

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    The short answer, I believe that Turkey Tail mushrooms are the best studied mushrooms so you can peruse studies on google scholar

    Also, list of things that increase NK Cells:
    green tea, inosine, immunovir, LDN, maitake/shitake/cordyceps/reishi mushrooms, AHCC
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    I have poor NK function and low NK cells overall.. plus, I've been experimenting w mushrooms lately and found this study interesting:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4684115/

    Specfically, a couple of tables:

    1) Basic Cytokine Patterns - TH1 vs TH2
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4684115/table/t2-32-44/

    2) Cytokine Modulation - specific cytokines modulated by specific mushrooms:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4684115/table/t3-32-44/
     
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  3. BFitz89

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    I'd gladly take some mind altering ones... Don't trust antidepressants so wouldn't mind microdosing boomers.
     
  4. Daffodil

    Daffodil Senior Member

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    isn't there some kind of mushroom extract called reishi or something? once a doctor in NYC told me to buy a bottle and it was like $300. its used in japan for prostate cancer patients....or something.
     
  5. Tammy

    Tammy Senior Member

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    Chaga and Reishi
     
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    keenly Senior Member

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  7. Spindrome

    Spindrome

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    I tried Coriolus, it made me feel worse like most supplements so gave up.

    Dr. Jean Monro of Breakspear Hospital, has demonstrated in a group of 36 patients who have had defined chronic fatigue syndrome and autonomic dysfunction that Coriolus MRL has been an immuno-therapeutic agent. It has improved natural killer cells numbers by 35% in this group with a two months course of treatment.

    http://www.mycologyresearch.com/articles/coriolus
     
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  8. BFitz89

    BFitz89

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    What would increasing NK cells result in? Would that mean the theory is a persistent infection that your body can't fight off?
     
  9. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem All Good Things Must Come to an End

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    Isn't an increase in NK cell function what is needed, rather than an increase in number?
     
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  10. Dufresne

    Dufresne almost there...

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    http://www.4tf.com/4life-transfer-factor-plus-tri-factor

    I've been taking this supplement over the last couple months and it's my impression it's quite strong. I'm finding the antimicrobials I use are having a whole other effect. One downside to this supplement is it's flared up my ankylosing spondylitis, however it's manageable. The other downside is the cost, so I'm thinking of buying the herbs and mushrooms on their own at a fraction of the cost.

     
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  11. Spindrome

    Spindrome

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    Good question is there a test for NK function?
     
  12. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem All Good Things Must Come to an End

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    I have not actually had one.

    According to my notes:
    LabCorp did one in 2013.
    Redlabs measured perforin mRNA to evaluate NK cell activation in 2014. The validity of this test was questioned on this forum.
     

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