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Best comprehensive stool test? Genova, DD, or ubiome?

Discussion in 'Diagnostic Guidelines and Laboratory Testing' started by sk123, Oct 20, 2017.

  1. sk123

    sk123

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    What is the best stool test please to see what type of gut pathogens might be causing gas and underlying gut dysbiosis? Genova GI effects, Genova CDSA with parastology, Genova CDSA 2.0, or Doctors data CDSA x3 pastology? Does the Ubiome test compare well to any of these tests? I would need a good interpretative guide. I understand the Doctors Data gives a brief synopsis as to which antimicrobials might work for killing pathogens that were found on test. Any guidance on which one to do please?
    I had done one from Biohealth a few yrs back which just showed excessive enterobacter nothing else.
    I am posting all the analytes that are tested with each test.
    Thank you!

    GI Effects® Comprehensive Profile - Stool
    Analyte List
    Acetate %
    Akkermansia muciniphila
    Anaerotruncus colihominis
    Bacteriology
    Bacteroides vulgatus
    Bacteroides-Prevotella group
    Barnesiella spp.
    Beta- glucuronidase
    Bifidobacterium longum
    Bifidobacterium spp.
    Butyrivibrio crossotus
    Calprotectin
    Cholesterol
    Clostridium spp.
    Collinsella aerofaciens
    Color
    Consistency
    Coprococcus eutactus
    Desulfovibrio piger
    Eosinophil Protein X (EPX)
    Escherichia coli
    Faecalibacterium prausnitzii
    Fecal Fat (Total)
    Fecal Occult Blood
    Fecal sIgA
    Firmicutes/Bacteroidetes (F/B Ratio)
    Fusobacterium spp.
    Lactobacillus spp.
    Long Chain Fatty Acids
    Methanobrevibacter smithii
    Mic Sensitivities, Yeast or Bacteria
    Microscopic Exam Results
    Mycology (Yeast/Fungi)
    Odoribacter spp.
    Other Biomarkers
    Oxalobacter formigenes
    Pancreatic Elastase 1
    Parasitology
    Parasitology EIA Tests
    Phospholipids
    Prevotella spp.
    Products of Protein Breakdown (Total) (Valerate+Isobutyrate+Isovalerate)
    Propionate %.
    Pseudoflavonifractor spp.
    Roseburia spp.
    Ruminococcus spp.
    SCFA (Total) (Acetate, n-Butyrate, Propionate)
    Triglycerides
    Veillonella spp.
    n-Butyrate %
    n-Butyrate Concentration



    Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis/Parasitology™(CDSA/P)
    Analyte list:

    Acetate %
    Bacteriology Culture, aerobic
    Bacteriology Culture, aerobic x 3
    Bacteriology Culture, anaerobic
    Beneficial SCFAs
    Beta-Glucuronidase
    Cholesterol
    Chymotrypsin
    Color
    Cryptosporidium EIA
    Entamoeba histolytica
    Fecal Lactoferrin
    Giardia lamblia EIA
    Long Chain Fatty Acids
    Meat Fibers and Vegetable Fibers
    Mucus
    Occult Blood
    Parasite Identification, Concentrate Prep
    Parasite Identification, Trichrome Stain
    Phospholipids
    Propionate %
    Putrefactive SCFAs
    Total Fecal Fat
    Triglycerides
    Yeast Culture
    n-Butyrate %
    pH


    Genova CDSA 2.0
    Analyte List

    Bacteriology Culture, aerobic
    Bacteriology Culture, aerobic x 3
    Bacteriology Culture, anaerobic
    Beneficial SCFAs
    Beta-Glucuronidase
    Bile Acids
    Calprotectin
    Cryptosporidium EIA
    Deoxycholic Acid
    Entamoeba histolytica
    Eosinophil Protein X (EPX)
    Giardia lamblia EIA
    LithoCholic Acid
    Pancreatic Elastase
    Parasite Identification, Concentrate Prep
    Parasite Identification, Trichrome Stain
    Putrefactive SCFAs
    Yeast Culture
    n-Butyrate %
    pH

    Doctors Data Comprehensive Stool Analysis w/Parasitology x3
    Analytes:
    Acetate; stool
    Additional pathogens culture; stool
    Bacteriology culture, aerobic; stool
    Butyrate; stool
    Calprotectin; stool
    Carbohydrates; stool *
    Cryptosporidium; stool
    Day 2 Parasitology, trichrome; stool
    Day 3 Parasitology, trichrome; stool
    Elastase; stool
    Fat Stain; stool
    Giardia lamblia; stool
    Lactoferrin; stool
    Lysozyme; stool
    Mucus; stool *
    Muscle Fibers; stool
    Occult Blood; stool
    Parasitology, concentrate; stool
    Parasitology, trichrome; stool
    Propionate; stool
    Red Blood Cells; stool
    Valerate; stool
    Vegetable Fibers; stool
    White Blood Cells; stool
    Yeast culture; stool
    pH; stool
    sIgA; stool

     
  2. vaer

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    greetings. Doctors data and genova both do the yeast culture with antifungal sensitivity I believe - i don't know anyone else who do antifungal/herbal sensitity (IF a yeast is cultured )..do you?

    Chris Kresser (Functional MD) podcast said he tends to run BioHealth 401H (a very good stool culture) alongside the Doctors Data CSA ( although £$) as one or the other can miss something.

    At the moment I think the comparision goes down to PCR (latest techology which genova uses) vs Culture (such as Doctors Data). This article is quite informative and useful: http://masteringthegut.com/home-page/stool-test-review/
     
  3. vaer

    vaer

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    I will be a submitting the Doctors Data CSA with parasitology (x3 ) soon. Which one did you end up picking if you did?

    find attached below a document/ebook from the article above, might be of use
     
  4. sk123

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    Hi Vaer
    Thank you for your response. I decided to go with Genova Gi effects.I did a 401H couple of yrs ago and all it showed was excessive enterobacter. Nothing else came up. Enterobacter is normal gut flora but I had an imbalance as I had too much of it. The 401 H test doesn't give you the species of enterobacter so didnt get much out of that then. There is another company that does stool testing Diagnostics solutions lab. They were in the process to add in a lot more markers. I think Doctors Data is a good one too so hope you get some good results.
     
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  5. vaer

    vaer

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    Yes GI-MAP by Diagnostic solutions is good one. I have heard it is quite good at picking up h.pylori even when stool antigens testing do not pick up ! I kind of wished I picked this one but in sense the Doctors Data is more for a overall picture which should shed some light for me
     

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