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BBC: GPs inform patients they will not write letters for benefit appeals

Discussion in 'Finances, Work, and Disability' started by Firestormm, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. Firestormm

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    Words simply fail me :ill:
     
  2. peggy-sue

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    How's the Independence for Wales campaign going?
     
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    It's a deliberate cull of the disabled.

    I think we all know how it will end for most of us if it is not stopped and reversed.
     
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    The DWP asked my GP for his opinion, and I swear he had me confused with someone else. His short reply to them - as I later learned in court - said something about me not exhibiting signs of a shortness of breath. What the heck that had to do with my condition/disablement the gods alone know.

    Fortunately, my testimony and additional evidence in court overturned that decision. But it did demonstrate to me the need to be able to interact with a GP and better ensure he knows what is required and that he remembers who you are :)

    Of course the main concern I have is that the DWP do not routinely ask all GPs or Consultants for information. They seem to pick and choose. And the patient does not know when the request has been made or what the reply was.

    As a patient we are asked to 'provide evidence' by the DWP. Well who is the one person that the vast majority of patients will turn to? THEIR GP! And patients are being charged for this 'privilege' in some instances. That too is a disgrace and should be stomped out or the same system should apply to everyone after proper consultation.

    Postcode friggin' lotteries rule in this capitalist 'democracy' [wheres the emoticon for spitting?] :)
     
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    Thanks for this Firestormm. Its related to other matters I have looked at and is likely to be in my book. Its like they want to deliberately construct a catch-22 situation: damned one way, damned the other, too bad. They don't seem to get that there are consequences. When you deny benefits to sick and disabled then other costs go up - some where, some how, some way.
     
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    I smell politics here alex3619 and simple economics too I am afraid.

    1) the doctors union and doctors generally were against being asked to get involved in benefit assessments and the 'new' system; but the Govt. told them to stuff it - and why should the Govt. care anyway - do what you are told and if you don't we don't mind if claimants lose out because it means less in the benefit bill.

    2) There is a definite cost to doctors surgeries and this 'burden' has certainly increased. If claimants are being asked for more evidence every six months or even every year - then this is considerable. People living longer - more chronic conditions even for those in work but disabled - claims will grow regardless of whether this results in upheld decisions. But nobody seems to be planning for this. Once upon a time what the doctor said went.

    Now it's all 'wellness notes' and 'evidence' and more time and effort and less incentive. My OT was telling me the other week that she has 2 letters on average each week to write to support someone with ME seeking to remain or claim benefit. Now that is not really in her job description I don't believe - but without her support the 'client' would stand less of a chance.

    Personally, I think the DWP are wanting to move away from claimants who see only a GP to claimants who are under the care of a consultant or some specialist service. I think the way the Work Capability Questionnaire is structured and the questions it asks - it geared towards hospital i.e. 'more serious'.

    I don't think it will be enough to 'simply' be under the care of 'only' a GP. But that just my ruminations. The only way I am on benefits is because - in court - I was able to represent myself and they could see and hear how I am. Really I had very little in the way of 'evidence' - who the hell does?

    It is remarkable stressful not to mention draining and exhausting, having to attend court for something like this: it should all really come out at the medical assessment - but they are only trying to follow the 'tick box' system. They do not listen or ask the right questions.

    Whole system is ****** in my humble opine - but there are signs it might improve... Enough. Need a rest :)
     
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    Politics and economics are indeed involved in my opinion. I am having to research both, but neither is my area. BPS, political trends, economic trends, are all part of a larger picture which I may outline in my book, but I can never do justice to. The scope of the problem is big, but we focus on our little bit, which is what we see day to day.
     
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    Alex
    1917, 1789, 1776, lessons from history on what happens when governments get too bloody outrageously incompetent, venal, contemptuous of their populace and abusive.
     

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