It doesn't sound to me like you have recovered by what I and many others and what others would consider recovery. I make no apologies for wanting more than that from medicine. Earlier in this thread, you blamed the media for hyping the results of the PACE Trial with regard to recovery and the like. You claimed that Barts have changed. I pointed out http://forums.phoenixrising.me/show...-as-we-know-it&p=247545&viewfull=1#post247545 what the PACE Trial newsletter said and what Trudie Chalder was quoted as saying. I have now shown what is actually on the Barts website at the moment This is inline with what is in the CBT and GET manuals for the PACE Trial. "CFS/ME" is reversible. I might reply to some of the other parts of your post again. I have more important and urgent things to do at the moment.