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Bad neck/shoulder pain with viral symptoms?

Discussion in 'General Symptoms' started by bertiedog, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. bertiedog

    bertiedog Senior Member

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    I have lost count how many different viruses I have had so far this year (or is it the same one that keeps resurfacing)? After having all the signs of a typical cold coming on last Saturday I managed to calm them all down by using Echinacea Augustaflora every hour. The master herbalist, Stephen Buhner suggests this along with some Licorice Root dribbled down the throat to kill off the virus.

    So it appeared to work on Saturday but the rough throat came back Sunday so I repeated the above and felt ok. However on Monday the symptoms of the cold seemed to go but instead i had a very severe dizzy turn when driving and my energy was half it usually is. I thought it was going to be a migraine and yesterday I did have a mild one in the morning but by now my throat was red and sore again and I had virtually no energy.

    Another symptom that had started up was severe neck pain going into the shoulders. I get this quite badly from time to time and was told once that it was spondylititis but I am not sure because in between attacks I don't have any symptoms there apart from knots in my shoulders.

    Are there others here who can relate to this severe aching from the neck and shoulders when one has a virus? I realise I didn't rest enough but now I just have to because of feeling so crap but wonder if this sort of thing is common when we have ME/CFS?

    Pam
     
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  2. PatJ

    PatJ far and free I gaze

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    It might be 'coat hanger pain'.
    More information is available in the article.
     
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  3. dangermouse

    dangermouse Senior Member

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    I get significant neck (left side) and shoulder pain during a relapse. The virus that I had (from which I developed ME) left all patients who had it with neck pain on the left, just below skull and radiating down (the consultant at the hospital noticed this).

    I also get the coat hanger pain at other times, normally when I've pushed beyond my limits.

    Edit: The virus that I got before developing ME was preceded by a food poisoning episode and infected tap water (cryptosporidium) infection. I've also had immunisations which include Hep B. All of these affected me in some way that I never felt like my normal self (health wise). It's confusing though interesting. The final straw (what it felt like & affected me dramatically compared to other staff) was getting the Norovirus.
     
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  4. bertiedog

    bertiedog Senior Member

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    Thanks to you both @dangermouse and PatJ it is exactly what I am experiencing at the moment and yes I realise I did do too much when the virus started and I also get OI but I am helped by a beta blocker during normal times.

    @dangermouse Do you know what the original virus was that caused you to get ME?

    Pam
     
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  5. dangermouse

    dangermouse Senior Member

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    @bertidog I got Norovirus whilst working as a Staff Nurse in a busy hospital. It was the most severe virus or infection that I'd ever experienced (up to then) and I was very unwell for weeks. I tried to return to work. I pushed myself in and struggled on for around six months, on the last morning that I worked I almost collapsed three times, I couldn't concentrate. I've never been the same since that virus.

    Interestingly, whilst other staff members made a good recovery between 4-7 days I was still bedbound (some days sofa bound, lay down) for several weeks and never recovered to how I was prior.
     
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  6. bertiedog

    bertiedog Senior Member

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    Sounds horrendous, I have had the Norovirus twice but not recently. I think the first virus that affected my CNS was a bout of influenza in 1979, Like you say I was never the same again with vertigo and migraines that would leave me bedridden for weeks. However in-between bouts of these my energy was ok. It wasn't till 2000 when I developed full blown ME/CFS after many different infections including Campylabactor.

    Pam
     
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  7. dangermouse

    dangermouse Senior Member

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    It's interesting (and confusing) in that I had severe food poisoning around 7 years prior to the Norovirus, and I also had cryptosporidium infection (from our tap water) around 5 years prior to the infection of Norovirus. I never really felt right after those infections , though I muddled along and managed to work. I also had Hep B vaccine whilst nursing which left me feeling unwell for a while.

    Interestingly, too, I found out (we had moved) some years later that my next door neighbour (with the infected tap water) had also developed ME!

    The influenza sounds awful. I had it around a year and a half ago and then developed pneumonia.
     
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