Hey
@Hip, could you update the OP with the following info? Or I could make a new thread.
I originally dismissed this option due to the "$2,500 to $20,000" price quotes, but it looks like those are wrong, currently.
Russian phages:
So the Russian phages are available now by contacting (email)
info at pharmalad.com.
Instructions:
https://archive.is/nVTsz -
https://archive.is/Ltget - 30-40ml 4x/day 0.5-1 hour before eating for duration of 7-10 days. The box comes with 4 20ml vials.
INTESTI BACTERIOPHAGE - 1 box = 34 USD
International delivery - 42 USD
1 box = 2x 40ml
40ml 4x/day = 2 boxes per day, for 10 days = $34 x 2 x 10 = $680 + shipping.
I didn't notice any impact from these, but I only took 1/10th of the recommended dose, and I did not opt for the cold pack, so they went unrefrigerated during the month it took them to ship.
I find these "local" phages significantly more helpful (for fatigue & IBS-D):
https://www.amazon.com/Nutrivee-Advanced-Prebiotic-Supports-Beneficial/dp/B01CTBDDWY -
https://www.iherb.com/pr/MRM-Probiotic-Booster-with-Preforpro-30-Veggie-Caps/75971
Eliava Phage Therapy Center, Tbilisi Georgia:
http://eliavaphagetherapy.com/ -
http://eliavaphagetherapy.com/faq-page/
info@eptc.ge
Costs:
http://eliavaphagetherapy.com/price-list/
Distant treatment:
§ €1900 includes online consultation with doctor
§ Repeat bacteriological analyses and phage sensitivity testing
§ Extra cost for Custom prepared “autophage” made on an individual basis (+€1000)
Local treatment (clinic) (most effective):
§ 7-14 days – €3900, for difficult cases – over 14 Days – €3900 + €300 per day
§ includes all medical exams, labs, applications and phages. All additional charges will be explained and agreed upon before they are incurred.
§ Extra cost for Custom prepared “autophage” made on an individual basis (+€1000)
Initial sample tested at the Eliava laboratory is €85. Over 600 bacteriophages in our collection. Don't have to travel there.
Answered 2 weeks later, saying "I would recommend contacting Dr. Satya Ambrose in Oregon if you are not able to travel.
https://www.sunnysidecocare.com/satya". But I don't see phages mentioned on that website.
Phage Therapy Center, Tbilisi Georgia:
mailbox@phagetherapycenter.com
https://www.phagetherapycenter.com/
CEO in California, Chris Smith.
Most of this I learned after registering a free account on the website and contacting them:
$200 for initial testing. "Treatment cost at the clinic ranges between 3000 and 4000 USD, including the cost of commercial phages. (custom phages are at a separate cost)"
"we don't have an in-patient option, there's only outpatient or at-home treatment"
"In those cases when patient can not travel to the clinic, we can ship phages to their address if we have a letter from his US doctor stating that he's aware his patient is importing phages for his personal use (no physical involvement in the actual treatment). The price in this case ranges between 1000 and 2000 USD."
"Eliava Institute is the only place where phages are produced in Georgia and all the others use the same phages throughout the country, including us. The other link you sent is Russian phage and all we can say is that Georgia has 80+ years of experience in phages and Russian patients often come here for treatment."
"It's never mandatory to travel to the clinic but rather recommended with certain cases to undergo treatment at the clinic when the whole body issues are addressed in a holistic way."