I''ve been hearing about a soon to be published trial by an Australian University (UOW) on CFS and treatment with exercise. Details are scetchy but I thought a new thread may be useful that we can add info to as it comes to light. An initual report from a patient on another closed group says that the trial has finished and the paper due soon. It claims to be about CFS but that none of the (poor) recognised criteria have been used. The trial contrasts several types of exercise therapy - one arm by a physiotherapist, another by someone who uses graded exercise and another by someone who exercises the group under a specified heart rate measure. There is no practical measure at the end apart from a medical examination of some sort, some sort of test of their movements and a blood pressure monitor reading. The criteria for the intake group is that they must have the following symptoms 1. Pain 2. Weakness 3. Insomnia 4. resting pulse rate over 100bpm and that patients were not excluded for any mental illnesses. An exclusion that was applied was to people with low blood pressure. This of course, could be entirely wrong in any part (or the whole part of course!) I've been mulling over this today and wondering which group they were trying to select and why?