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If you're aware of my previous articles here at Phoenix Rising then it's pretty clear that I don't generally spend my time musing upon the philosophy of the disease. I find it better to spend my time reading research and trying my best to break it down to its core elements and write...
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article on hysteria

Discussion in 'Action Alerts and Advocacy' started by WillowJ, May 27, 2011.

  1. Wayne

    Wayne Senior Member

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    Hi Justin,

    Thanks for your reply. I get frustrated reading any kind of material where I continually want to scream at the author, "please get to the point!" Once I get a sense they're never going to get to the point, I just give up, and surmise what I can from what I read, which often isn't very much.

    So I readily defer to your take on this. I'm quite sure you read more of it and more carefully than I did. Seems a shame some people don't have better things to do with their time and energy than to denigrate people they don't know with information they don't understand.

    Got to agree with you 100% on that one! ;) I might take it a step further and mention that politicians who are sloppy writers, researchers and thinkers shouldn't run for political office either. But as Angela might say:

    :D

    Wayne
  2. justinreilly

    justinreilly Stop the IoM & P2P! Adopt CCC!

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    Right! Sloppy research, thinking and writing don't get her off the hook! : )
  3. justinreilly

    justinreilly Stop the IoM & P2P! Adopt CCC!

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    good points!

    That's interesting!

    Did I coin a new word in 'somatogenic'? ME brain fog has often made me a linguistic pioneer!
  4. WillowJ

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    I edited my post to include the following info:

    I had, at that time, missed that it was from a book by a different woman, Asti Hustvedt; the book is called Medical Muses: Hysteria in Nineteenth-Century Paris.

    And Valentijn conveniently provided the link and answered my question:
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    WillowJ Senior Member

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    Good work, Tammie.

    Good point here. I know an eating disorders expert, whom I can ask to comment on the npr article and the book.
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    WillowJ Senior Member

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    thanks for the DSM and sloppy thinking discussions, too, everyone :)
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    I think as another general rule, anyone writing a book even vaguely related to medicine should have to pass a test demonstrating they understand basic concepts, not least of which, specificity and sensitivity.
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    WillowJ Senior Member

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    no kidding.

    also use of pubmed, and basic critique of studies: that correlation is not equal to causation, use of appropriate controls, samples and randomization, extrapolation, methods of study design, logical fallacies, and so forth
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    cool, thanks
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    Tammie Senior Member

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    on the amazon site for this book, there are now 6 reviews and all only give one star and make some good points : )

    I hope that people continue to comment on how ridiculous this book is and how hurtful and completely wrong
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    Ahh, sensi- what? Speky what?

    Most docs know this stuff, its part of their medical training. However most most doctors receive no formal training in logic or reasoning, nor do most scientists. Some do, particular those with classical training before they get their main degree, and more learn on their own, but too many seem to presume that having a medical degree or whatever means they are rational.

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