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Anticholinergics and Acetylcholine?

Discussion in 'Autonomic, Cardiovascular, and Respiratory' started by Ema, Oct 17, 2015.

  1. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    Could someone please help me to understand what I'm missing here?

    This page says:

    But then it goes on to say:

    How does an agent that blocks the actions of acetylcholine on the parasympathetic receptors also cause side effects of parasympathetic stimulation?
     
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  2. halcyon

    halcyon Senior Member

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    I feel like that's just worded wrong, because what they listed are the opposites of what parasympathetic stimulation does.
     
  3. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    Are those the side effects of sympathetic stimulation then?
     
  4. halcyon

    halcyon Senior Member

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    Perhaps side effects of lack of parasympathetic stimulation?
     
  5. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    Clear as mud...LOL!
     
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  6. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl But I Look So Good.

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    So how do you "fix" this? If you are having side effects or want to rule it out if you have some symtoms.

    Please tag me
     
  7. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    I would think either by stopping the anticholinergics or maybe (?) by increasing choline. I'm not certain if that works though if the receptors are blocked by the anticholinergic.
     
  8. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl But I Look So Good.

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    I don't know what anticholinergenics are. Or blocked receptors.

    If you're confused then I'm totally lost.
     
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    The problem with this approach is you block a wide range of acetylcholine functions. I think we need drugs that target receptor subtypes, such as M3 and M4 in order to really test some of the ideas out there. The different receptor subtypes do different things, but all of that gets blocked with agents like atropine.
     
  11. lansbergen

    lansbergen Senior Member

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    That is why I do not go to an eyedoctor to check my bad eyes.
     
  12. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl But I Look So Good.

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    And in still lost. I don't get things and never will and this is one of them. You night as well me speaking Martian to me.
     
  13. sillysocks84

    sillysocks84 Senior Member

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    This doesn't answer anything, but I've been using raw eggs in my smoothies for the past two weeks and already my heartrate is a bit calmer. Also started around the same time though was neuroprotek, but from what I've read about choline I think it has to be helping. 90% of people in the US are deficient to some degree for choline.

    Wish I could add more scientifically lol.
     

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