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Another view of adrenal fatigue

Discussion in 'Adrenal Dysfunction' started by heapsreal, Nov 8, 2012.

  1. heapsreal

    heapsreal iherb 10% discount code OPA989,

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    If u like to get really deep into the physiology of this then it will be of interest but its quite full on.

    What is Adrenal Fatigue at its core? Many website will tell you it is an adrenal gland function problem that is best assayed by a salivary adrenal stress panel. I wont and I do not. The cause of adrenal fatigue is a brain injury at the hypothalamus all caused by bad signaling. My Adrenal Fatigue Rx is best called Metabolic Neurosurgery: It is all about energy and energy utilization that allows for perfect signaling of environmental signals. When your energy is bad your signaling falls off a cliff. The ASI is just like a gauge on a car. It tells you some info but it does not tell you why it is happening. How we understand adrenal dysfunction in 2012 has radically changed because of a relatively new science called neurohumoral-immunology. What does this mean? It means adrenal fatigue at its core is a brain illness and not an adrenal gland problem.

    here is the rest http://www.jackkruse.com/brain-gut-16-adrenal-fatigue-rx/
     
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    heapsreal iherb 10% discount code OPA989,

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    An outline of his treatment protocol.

    Treatments: Adaptogens Maca, Rhodiola, Holy Basil, Black cohosh root, licorice, Fo-ti root
    Supplements: CoEnQ10 (ubiquinol) 400mgs to 1200 mgs, phosphatidylserine and choline, DHEA and pregnenolone replacement (all based upon lab values)
    Treat with high dose B complex and vitamin C replacement to help liver detoxification phase 1 and phase 2 pathways
    Introduction of Mind body meditation techniques in my view is critical to getting better.
    Big thirst is a big symptom. Treat with hydration and salt tabs.
    Astragalus (Qi-tonic or TA-65)
    Melatonin
    Progesterone
    Complete darkness for sleep
    Bioidentical cortisol (hydrocortisone)
    Oxytocin (natural secretion is better than exogenous forms)
    Colostrum
    Replace vitamin D to minimum 50 ng/dl
    GABA replacement
    L-theanine (copiously found in green tea)
    Avoid caffeine, chocolate, ephedra, guarana, kola nut, and prescription stimulants. (Ritalin)
    For severe cases check Zinc and Copper levels as well. Fe levels and Hg levels in long standing cases
    Expose yourself to low light situations as soon as the sun sets before bed
    Pearls for a Adrenal optimization:
    Sleep by 10 PM
    Sleep in until 8:00 AM
    Avoid over training
    Do the things you enjoy
    Avoid coffee or other caffeinated beverages; steep your tea!
    Eat early within thirty minutes of rising
    Have a glass of water in the morning with 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of salt
    Avoid grains such as bread
    Avoid starchy foods such as potato
    Mind body mastery/ Laugh several times a day
    Take vitamin C, pantothenic acid, magnesium, and vitamin E (Mixed tocophrenols)
    Take pregnenolone and DHEA, as needed
    Avoid becoming fatigued
    Avoid high glycemic fruits
    Never skip breakfast ever
     
  3. GracieJ

    GracieJ Senior Member

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    Bravo!!!
     
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  4. caledonia

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    Oh boy. I agree that adrenal fatigue (or at least my adrenal fatigue) is a hypothalmus/pituitary signalling problem. And that the ASI shows there is a problem, but not why. Rich Vank said that it was due to lack of glutathione in those organs. The way to fix it is to increase glutathione by restoring methylation function.

    Next, I don't agree with this person's treatment plan, which is really wacky. It looks like a regular sort of adrenal treatment plan, but it has supps that would both increase cortisol and decrease cortisol. This is like trying to drive a car with the foot on the gas and the brake at the same time. And then it pretty much includes the kitchen sink.

    The reason why it might work for some people is that it includes a high dose B complex.

    I'm going with what Rich said.
     
  5. heapsreal

    heapsreal iherb 10% discount code OPA989,

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    I think he uses supps to increase and decrease cortisol at certain times as its cortisol rhythm thats whacky in alot of us not just low cortisol all the time. I think the list of treatments is just a list, i dont think its a specific prescription and to take all of them. From what i have seen from his other writting is that certain supps are used for specific indications and abnormalities he finds. I think u have to read the rest of his stuff to get a clear idea of what he is about. His background as a neurosurgeon as well as changing himself from poor health to being healthy and studying these concepts is how he has come up with his theories. I need to sit down and read it more but it is hard to get your head around. There is some stuff on his website about antioxidants and glutathione which would be similar to rich's work as well as expanding on hormones, different body rhythms, diet, leptin sensitivity, insulin sensitivity, paleo diet, brain gut connection. His concepts are alot broader then rich's theory and take alot more into consideration. Im yet to read all dr kruses info and his theories are quite deep.
     
  6. SunnyInside

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    Thanks for sharing Heapsreal, makes interesting reading, plenty to think about and lots more to learn about. :)
     
  7. anne_likes_red

    anne_likes_red Senior Member

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    His concepts, as far as I can tell, are his interpretation of how we're working constantly against our evolutionary biology and this is undermining our brain health and immunity. The way he lays out his interpretations is frustrating. Have found him to be a nice guy, but online manner and presentation of ideas kind of off putting (which is a shame).
    He considers adaptogenic herbs a last option for adrenals.
    Attention to light cycles, cold adaptation, leptin rx first. Cold adaptation will raise glutathione on its own, and NK cells, and lots more. You can find studies. (Or you can get cold....taking care and using caution...and see how you feel.)
    HTH
    Anne.
     
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  8. anne_likes_red

    anne_likes_red Senior Member

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    PS Heaps Kruse is big on cycloset for resetting circadian rhythms. I haven't used it, Found the other measures (blue blocking 4 hours prior to sleep, leptin reset and cold..cold..cold over winter) to be enough to make good improvement. Did you mean to PM you about cycloset a while back though. Look into it, see whatcha think :)
     
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  9. Beyond

    Beyond 10% of discount in iHerb!--> PEZ915

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    Thats some good load of $$$ and commitment for our part, but we can do it!
     
  10. Beyond

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    Oh add to that the Leaky Gut treatment, which its a league of supplements and procedures on its own :rofl:

    Colostrum, it looks very very promising, for the gut as well.

    Restoring the Qi looks important!! Great info overall, hard to fail knowing all this.

    Maca its good stuff especially for mood and virility ;)
     

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