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Another specialist for gut-related Cfs around Germany than KDM?

Discussion in 'ME/CFS Doctors' started by tiredlight, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. tiredlight

    tiredlight

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    I am considering seeing KDM since my Cfs seems to be gut-related.

    On the other hand I can not really afford the 4000 Euro (i think this was the price?) you have to pay for him and his lab tests.

    So is there another - cheaper - specialist for gut-related Cfs around Germany than KDM?

    Does KDM treat most people with the same meds - and if so: which?
  2. mellster

    mellster Marco

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    Dr. Bieger is the only German CFS doc I know and he now gets meds from KDM.
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    I think 4000 euros is quite a high estimation of the costs of seeing KDM--I paid much less.

    Also, he prescribes meds according to lab results so most of us take a different combination of meds and supplements. He does prescribe GcMAF and Nexavir for patients for whom he thinks they will help, but it depends on lab results, symptoms etc., and he will prescribe a different combination of meds and supplements even for the patients who take these two.

    Best wishes,
    Sushi
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  4. tiredlight

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    Thanks. May I ask you how much? Is it possible to leave out things (e.g. lab tests that you have already done) so that you have to pay much less?
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Hi,

    It is hard to estimate because we are all different, but yes you can leave out any lab tests you don't want to do. I'll PM you or look for me on chat.

    Best,
    Sushi
  6. Wednesday's Child

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    I'm in Munich and I go to the Burn Out Diagnostic Institute: http://www.burn-out-muenchen.de/
    Burnout is a recognised condition here, and the clinicians have a lot of experience in dealing with CFS. I've been seeing them for just two weeks and I'm very hopeful for the future. My ATP and methylation tests showed that my mitochondria are seriously struggling, and a vitamin B12 deficiency was identified. I am still to receive more results (test for leaky gut in particular), and I will be starting treatment for my mitochondria next week. Treatment should take 6-12 months.

    I have public insurance and that covers most "normal" tests and the doctor visits themselves, but so far I've paid about €300 for various blood, urine and stool tests. I consider this to be a bargain, as I assumed the clinic would be private. I've been living with CFS for about 6 years now, and I would be willing to pay any money to get my life back. My echocardigraph, EKG, lung function tests and ultrasound of everything from hips to throat were all free.

    It's WONDERFUL to go to doctor and not have to battle for the care I deserve, not have to educate them. I don't speak much German but the doctors speak great English.

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