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Another Medical Kidnapping

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by leela, Dec 2, 2013.

  1. user9876

    user9876 Senior Member

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    It would be interesting if he took out a private prosecution against the doctors for child abuse and kidnap.
     
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    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    Where do judges get off doing this?

    This story is completely insane, and it just keeps get crazier by the minute.
     
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  4. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    and this decision in the face of the obvious and serious decline in justina's health under this last year's "care".
    who are these horrible rabid dogs that just won't give up the bone on this? i cannot fathom how this is possible.
    how do they sleep at night.
    for frak's sake.
     
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  5. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Not to mention DCF are ruining this girl's life, all the while busying themselves filing motions to hold the father in contempt of court for objecting to this ruinous cascade of events. What parent in their right mind would let the state steamroller their entire family in silence? So the bully says you can't tell anyone he punches you every day....and you just comply? I don't think so.

    There is a really ugly trend in diesempowerment underway right now. I don't like it one bit.
     
  6. Ren

    Ren Primum Non Nocere

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    I just noticed the Justina Pelletier story has now made it to the Drudge Report.
     
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  7. Dreambirdie

    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    This ABC News story was at the top of the HOT RIGHT NOW list and second on the MOST COMMENTED list when I read it.

    If everyone would look at it, that would keep it on the HOT lost as long a possible.

    ETA: I see that the story on The Blaze is at the top of their POPULAR list, but not on their SOCIAL list.
     
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  9. Ren

    Ren Primum Non Nocere

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    I just learned that it's a Dutch neurologist, Dr. Jurriaan Peters, who was first responsible for diagnosing Justina with somatoform disorder (Somatic Symptom Disorder ?). Wonder who his mentors (and their associates) are.

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jurriaan-peters/4/121/627
     
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  10. Valentijn

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    Based on personal experience, Dutch neurologists are absolutely horrible to ME/CFS patients. Very strong beliefs in psychosomatic disorders.
     
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  11. Ren

    Ren Primum Non Nocere

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    I'm sorry, Valentijn.

    Looking at this page http://www.emgo.nl/research/mental-health/research-themes/2/soma--psyche/aims-and-scope/
    - from a department perhaps at VUmc where Peters was a student - Well, I worry that things are likely to get worse before they get better.

    Edit: Just wanted to add that a superficial search of "VU Medical Center and Per Fink" (Danish psych-person involved in Karina Hansen case) shows at least one paper with Fink and "Psychiatric CL Service, VU Medical Center, Amsterdam, The Netherlands", among other authors.)

    http://repositorio.hff.min-saude.pt...of Psychosomatic Research 57 (2004) 17–24.pdf
     
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    Ren Primum Non Nocere

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    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    I wrote the Dr Oz Show, requesting that they do a segment about Justina.

    Maybe you all could do the same. CONTACT HERE: http://www.doctoroz.com/contact

    Oz is an empathetic guy with a large viewing audience. I was able to convince him (with help from Donnica Moore) to do a segment on XMRV back in 2010. He doesn't shy away from controversy.

    "Please do a story about Justina Pelletier, the teenage girl who has been removed from her parents into foster care and denied medical treatment for mitochondrial disease at the behest of a Dutch neurologist, Dr. Jurriaan Peters, who was first responsible for diagnosing Justina with somatoform disorder. What has happened to her is horrible. In depth media attention needs to be given to this issue. Thank you."

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/sick-connecticut-teen-
     
  15. Dreambirdie

    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    I also just contact Donnica Moore about this. She wrote me back that she was horrified by the story and will pass it on to her producer contacts at the Oz show, but is unsure how much they will be able to do with a media gag order in place.
     
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    There is so much about this that is so puzzling but why the gag order? Whose rights are they trying to protect?
     
  17. Dreambirdie

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    Not that puzzling at all. They are protecting themselves from the truth.
     
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    Only another 169 to go on the Change.org petition now.

    Thanks for posting the link Iquitos - I didn't get sent that one, I don't know why.
     
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    Ren Primum Non Nocere

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    I don't think they're trying to protect anyone's rights.

    I think this - as with Karina Hansen - (as well as a somewhat recent custodial case in Sweden where a child was permanently ripped from his parents after Sweden passed a law forbidding homeschooling) -

    I think the DSM-5 is out, and now (just as the with the law in Sweden) those in power are flexing their muscle to see how much abuse and control they can exert and how much resistance, if any, they get from the public.

    I think they pick a vulnerable person/family and carve them up, as an example for others who might dare to think independently. Their arrogance and cruelty is grotesque - and truly beyond words really.
     
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    Outrage as Justina Pelletier Placed In Foster Care [Video]
    Added by Penny Swift on February 26, 2014.
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