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Another Medical Kidnapping

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by leela, Dec 2, 2013.

  1. user9876

    user9876 Senior Member

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    I've experienced a doctor (a pediatric CFS specialist) in the UK trying to have a child sent to a unit which sounds similar in terms of imprisoning a child and trying to limit access to parents. Fortunately she expected to local CAHMS team to actually do what she was suggesting and they didn't.

    Here excuse was that the child had been ill for too long for it to be CFS. But she said that her original diagnosis was correct and that she had cured the ME (by some leaflets and an occasional phone call from a therapist) and the trauma of being ill had caused a dissociative disorder. The doctor had a reputation for doing that but I suspect she gives a different story in applications for research funding.

    So there is a unit in London where they do similar things to this case in the US but they use a diagnosis of pervasive refusal syndrome. I've heard various stories including that a one child was denied access to a lawyer.
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  2. beaker

    beaker CFS/ME 1986

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    I'm stunned.

    And then I think of all the people who want in-patient Physc help and are kicked out -- no insurance-- and are in a state of where they can harm themselves or others or end up on the street.
    Where do they get these docs.

    And the article/link about the Italian woman in the UK who they gave an unconsensual C section and took her baby. It was so bizarre I thought I was reading something in tabloid paper, right next to an article about an Elvis siting.
    This world frightens me sometimes.
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    Maybe this helps explain it. I suspect that almost everywhere when someone can be claimed to be a danger to themselves or others the state pays for it all. There is a gravy train here. It also gives the hospital or treating physicians a taste of power.

    Rationality seems to be largely absent, mitochondrial disorders have hard objective evidence even if they are not fully understood (sound familiar?) whereas somatoform disorders have .... none!
  4. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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  5. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    If she ever gets out, I would think she would go straight to a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the U.S.
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  8. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Thanks allyb. It was horrifying to see the judge delay the case until now, such that she had to miss being with her family for the holidays.
    So much for child welfare, justice, or plain simple human compassion.

    It's tempting to suspect a case of Mass Hysteria has broken out among the staff at BCH!:devil:
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    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    I'm glad to see there is hope and progress; but wonder how deep this kind of scar can go.
    The fact that there is a gag order speaks volumes--rather admits misconduct, imo.

    I can't think of any plausible reason that she wasn't transferred to Tufts a year ago, which is where her medical team is.
    It is unfathomable that this kind of thing goes on in the 21st century.
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    I hope this family and others sue these monsters out of existence. All "professionals" involved should be stripped of their professional lisences, sentenced for kidnapping/abuse/etc., and issued a restraining order that bars them from interaction with children - and pets. I wouldn't trust them to clean the monkey cage at the zoo - maybe the snake tank, but definately not anything with fur or feathers. :devil:
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    It sounds like the judge is giving 0 credence to the claims by Boston Children's hospital - getting her out of there AND having her moved into special transitional care due to being medically fragile.

    Also very heartening to see comments from a former Boston Children's nurse, and a former federal prosecutor standing up for the family and speaking out against the hospital.
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    They could clean the scum that eats the goo that the snake excretes in the tank possibly.

    (Nod to My Best Friend's Wedding...)
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    Psychiatry resembles the inquisition in some aspects.
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    (With apologies to Monty Python) Resembles? Resembles? We have no comfy chairs! We only have a comfy couch!
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    Sorry - I haven't seen the films/skits. Maybe in due time. :)
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    I read the following elsewhere, but perhaps it works here as well. From wiki:

    "The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.[1]..."

    "David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others"."

    " Confucius ("Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.")"

    "Shakespeare expressed similar sentiment in As You Like It ("The Foole doth thinke he is wise, but the wiseman knowes himselfe to be a Foole." (V.i))."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
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  19. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Great find IreneF! Fantastic! Shut it down, strike those people from the medical registry, and follow up with a serious investigation and cleanup of the dept of children and families!
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    It's frightening. Everyone's read horror stories about child abuse, but when kids are taken away from their parents and placed in foster homes, they are often also abused, many times by other kids.

    I wonder if the state of Mass. has a particularly powerful social services dept.

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