Yes You are probably right on average. Although potentially some might be late entrants. BTW, when I have been talking about "no-hopers" generally in this thread, I mean groups that are don't have the potential to bring in big votes. Yes, that is a concern. Yes, whatever happens, it would be good for our sake if the Prader-Willi vote gets split. It would be interesting to know when they registered. This has been running since April 25. 9,000 votes in that period might conceivably only be a few hundred voters and the 1257 in Canada could easily be less than 100 people. It would be interesting if anybody could look into it e.g. are there any Prader-Willi events? How big are the organisations? It seems a relatively rare disorder - 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 25,000. But I'm very nervous about splitting the vote.