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Allergy to wires used in Orthodontics

Discussion in 'Skeleton, Skin, Muscles, Hair, Teeth, and Nails' started by minkeygirl, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl Senior Member

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    I have been seriously crashed for a month and I was not good to start with. I'm in a constant fog, feel like I ran a marathon, can barely get off the sofa. Tachycardia is probably the most annoying and my IBS has really acted up. I have had allergic reactions to some supplements I wanted to take and some problems with things I had been taking for awhile.

    It occurred to me last night (when I couldn't sleep again) that all this started about a month ago when I had some fixed retainer wires bonded to my teeth. (I think it was about that time).

    I did some looking around and found there is a link between orthodontic materials, specifically nickel and people with CFS. I had all the mercury removed from my teeth a few years ago so that isn't part of it.

    I'm calling the doctor later to find out what kind of wire she used. Does anyone know anything about this? Would a nickel allergy screw me up this much?

    Please respond to me like I'm in first grade as I cannot understand much. Thanks.

    Jan

    http://naturaldentistry.us/1933/mercury-and-nickel-allergy-risk-factors-in-fatigue-and-autoimmunity/
  2. ggingues

    ggingues $10 gift code at iHerb GAS343 of $40

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    Well, how are the wires bonded to teeth? Some kind of glue? Perhaps that could be the cause?

    GG
  3. caledonia

    caledonia

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    The main symptom I'm finding for nickel allergy is contact dermatitis.

    I have heard of people having reactions to many different kind of dental materials, which cause various problems. I have heard of testing that you can do to determine sensitivity to dental materials before you use them.

    I typed in your symptoms and "dental materials" and a lot of links for mercury amalgams came up. Are your symptoms similar to problems you were having with mercury (or problems that cleared up once you got rid of mercury?)

    I've had 90% relief from multiple chemical sensitivity by doing Rich Vank's methylation protocol. That would help with things like the glue, but heavy metals like mercury are toxins regardless.

    Your brain fog especially reminds me of my reaction to formaldehyde (maybe in the glue?) Methylation would help that, but it would take awhile (months?) to get relief. I have a friend with extreme chemical sensitvities who is using transdermal glutathione for emergency situations. She gets it here: http://www.leesilsby.com/glutathione.php. You need a doctor's prescription.

    I guess you could have the wires removed and see if it helps? Then test materials before using them.
  4. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    I agree with the cement/glue theory, but also know that nickel sensitivity is a common factor.
    Though it sounds like you've had orthodontics for a while, it is also worth considering the stress to the bones of the head. Stress of all kinds aggravates symptoms in this disease.
  5. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl Senior Member

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    I'd have to ask about the glue but I don't know if she even used any. Do they put glue in your tooth when they put in a porcelain filling? Also I would have been sick immediately and I wasn't.

    I took the nickel off my arm and will see how it is tomorrow. I agree that the stress of my teeth moving and the multiple appointments and running back and forth just did me in. I just would like to find another reason.

    I also fee better as the day goes on so I don't think I would if it was glue or metal. I was just hoping it would be something else. All these setbacks are not fun to deal with.

    I'd be interested in the chelation others talked about. I havent' gotten around to looking into it yet.

    UPDATE: I took the nickel off my arm and it does look like there is some contact dermatitis there. So could a nickel allergy make me feel this crappy? It could be costly to get this replaced.
  6. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl Senior Member

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    The wire is stainless steel. She used composite to attach so it is not that. Bad news because I would have preferred it be something tangible I could do something about. Well, this sucks.
  7. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Do you know for certain you are not sensitive to whatever composite is composed of?
    Have you seen a craniosacral practioner? They might be able to help with the stress on the head bones.
  8. minkeygirl

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    I'm pretty sure I don't have a problem with the composite she used since that is what was put in when they removed my amalgams. I did look to see if there are sensitivities to the composite and they did actually come up with something a few years ago but they are really rare and my symptoms don't fit.

    Wouldn't know about a craniosacral practioner, where to find, what they do. I only was going through the orthodontia 5 months and she was only moving 3 teeth. It wasn't major orthodontics with braces etc.

    Right now I'm going under the assumption that the stress of all the appointments in a short period of time and the stress of dealing with it caused me to crash. I don't know what else to do really. I ordered some Mb12 sublingual so I'll see if that helps. I should be taking that anyway. Just gotta get through this but since I live alone and have no help I really cannot rest 100% like I'd like to.
  9. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    You know, the stress factor is a likely suspect.

    Have you considered, too, that the stress etc could be a trigger for a delayed reaction to the amalgam removal several years ago?
    Like something recently moved it out of hiding? Have you tested for it (I know mercury is hard to test for) or other heavy metals?
    Even when removing it with the most careful practitioner, it is possible to inhale both particulate and vapor.

    Some of the info here might be of interest:
    http://www.lanadahl.com/articles/surviving_orthodontics.html

    and here:
    http://virginiasmiles.com/html/dentalnews/37craniosacral.html
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    I'm thinking just stress in general could be the catalyst since I had to go to the ortho every other week sometimes more and the last week was a real struggle with 3 appointments in 3 days. And I'm just stressed having to deal with stuff on my own.

    I find it hard to believe that I had a reaction 3 years post amalgam removal. All I can do is maybe EDTA chelation which I am looking into. Not sure if that would be too stressful but I'll give this a bit more time and see how I do. Thanks for the links.

    I just have to support myself the best I can now, but not sure what to take. B12 and thinking of adrenal support of some kind. Thanks

    What is horrible is that I have brain fog all the time. It never goes away. When I have to concentrate it clears up but that is exhausting. I've never felt like this before I don't think, and if I did it was years ago when I first got sick. This feels epic.

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