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A multidisciplinary network for the care of abnormal fatigue and CFS [in parts of Belgium]

Discussion in 'Latest ME/CFS Research' started by Dolphin, Jul 25, 2014.

  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25056488
    http://www.maneyonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/2295333714Y.0000000056

    So CBT and GET didn't work last time, but that's still what they're getting this time.
     
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    :bang-head:
     
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    Even more essential is actually knowing whether your intervention does anything at all. I skimmed the audit and they seem to have no good data on natural illness progression or effectiveness of the intervention, but who cares, psychologists need not be concerned with reality.
     
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    If anyone feels inclined, they do accept letters to the editor:

    • http://www.maneyonline.com/ifa/acb
     
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    They will never learn
     
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    The abstract starts off so promisingly!

    (At last, they've finally admitted that CBT and GET are ineffective, and even harmful!)

    And then, of course, I read the final line.
     
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    erm...
     
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    Maybe they're hoping that by starting "treatment" early, they can prevent the faulty thoughts from becoming chronic? Surely that will prevent CFS, won't it not?
     
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    :rofl:
     
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    Little Bluestem All Good Things Must Come to an End

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    Someone needs to introduce them to KDM.
     
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    Yes, I imagine outcomes regarding health, activity, and patient satisfaction are all MUCH higher at his clinic then they are at the Belgian fatigue centers.
     
  13. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem All Good Things Must Come to an End

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    There is no point in reinventing the wheel (particularly when you seen to think it should be square). They can just follow his model.
     
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