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A brilliant new cure guys ;) Thrive programme

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by Orla, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. Orla

    Orla Senior Member

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    Joan McParland posted this on her Facebook. She said it was ok to repost. Read it and weep.

    I asked a THRIVE consultant in NI for more details of what
    help he can offer and how many ME patients he had cured.
    There should really be some sort of law enforcement to deal with people charging money for this sort of thing.
    WARNING. Here's the reply.

    "Good morning Joan

    Thank you for your interest in The Thrive Programme. Due to people's general attitudes that suffer from ME, they are very hard to get through my door. From my experience they often think something like "this can't be helped" or "this isn't a psychological problem" and therefore they are hard to get through the programme.

    In the most modern research studies in the world, they are starting to show that physical symptoms such as Fibromyalgia, IBS and ME are largely caused and maintained by how people think and process events. For example, it's NOT coincidence that nearly everybody I see with IBS is highly anxious. What people don't realise is the mind-body connection. How you think on a daily basis ( and process events ) will have major implications on your body. People that are constantly under stress / anxiety are much more susceptible to PHYSICAL issues such as IBS, Fibromyalgia or ME because stress / anxiety / depression ALWAYS weaker the immense system and have major effects on how your body fights on chronic pain and physical illness.

    I have not taken anyone through the Thrive programme that has had ME due to the reasons mentioned above. They are often in denial that their "thinking" could have anything to do with it and therefore totally dismiss the idea. Which of course is unfortunate because I've seen the life changing effects this programme has upon thousands of people every year. It sounds to me Joan like your life is affected by this to a large extent? I don't know what your thinking but I would advise you to strongly think about completing the Thrive Programme and turn your life around once and for all.

    The cost depends on the person / circumstances etc and that's why I offer a free consultation either in my Dungannon, Coleraine or Enniskillen office. Let me know if you want to avail.

    Regards
    XXXXX"

    http://www.thriveprogramme.org/help-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/
     
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  2. Orla

    Orla Senior Member

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    From the website:

    There is much debate about the potential causes of CFS but The Thrive Programme can help you regardless of what caused your symptoms in the first place.

    The Thrive Programme is a life-changing psychological training programme that empowers you with the skills, insights and resources in order to take control of your life, overcome any symptoms or problems you have, and thrive!
    http://www.thriveprogramme.org/help-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/
     
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  3. A.B.

    A.B. Senior Member

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    Because correlation is whatever causation fits my beliefs, right?
     
  4. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member

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    Why pay? I'm sure it'll be available in a well constructed RTC soon? :rolleyes:
     
  5. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    Sounds super legit.
     
  6. alkt

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    well as a happy go lucky person who before me and ibs struck also still not suffering from any form of stress anxiety disorder how would they explain my current lack of good health .I most certainly did not wake up one morning with a complete personality change deciding it would be fun to spend the rest of my life with a horrendous amount of pain and suffering from any illness nor did I consider the potential benefits of the sick role who comes up with these flawed theories and why do people with the ability to think in a discerning manner give them any credence.
     
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  8. IreneF

    IreneF Senior Member

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    When I was diagnosed I was severely depressed. Later I developed anxiety on top of that. I finally found an effective antidepressant. Relief of my mental illness had no effect on my physical symptoms.
     
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  9. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    There's one of those phrases that sets my alarm bells ringing again. A bit like "Our society isn't good at recognising ..." (bonus points if you can remember who said that - here's a clue - facial spam).

    There's a whole stock of such phrases that help you recognise when you are probably standing in front of a quacktard about to dump a steaming pile of bullshit on you.
     
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  10. Dx Revision Watch

    Dx Revision Watch Owner of Dx Revision Watch

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    Nice work if you can get it....

    http://www.thriveprogramme.org/train/

    WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRAIN TO BECOME A LICENSED THRIVE PROGRAMME CONSULTANT?

    "...You don’t need to have any specific qualifications in order to apply to become a Thrive Consultant, as your suitability will be determined during an informal interview with the programme creator, Rob Kelly.

    The cost of the course is £5995, which includes all your mentoring and support. Once you have passed the course there is a monthly fee for your license..."
     
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  11. Chrisb

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    Might even soon be NICE work if you can get it.
     
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  12. sarah darwins

    sarah darwins I told you I was ill

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    What people don't realise is the quack-money connection
     
  13. Barry53

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    The more likely reason is they are thinking "I don't want to be treated by a half-wit!"
     
  14. Orla

    Orla Senior Member

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    Lol, I am afraid your cynicism, and insistence of engaging in critical thinking, will exclude you from this cure, along with many others :devil:

    Yours Sincerely,
    Dr Quack
     
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    During the years I spent working for someone with the severe version of the illness I came across some very strange cures and therapists. Some are simply suffering from intractable megolamania others are con artists out to make as much money as possible and play the role of hero. Cobblers to the lot of them.
     
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    Someone please inform her about gut dysbiosis and the gut-brain axis :bang-head: It's amazing how uniquely we can perceive a situation when following our own agenda - to the point of absolutely bypassing science!
     
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  17. Kenshin

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    My symptoms don't give a shit about my mental or emotional state.

    Aside from worsening due to the energy expenditure of intense emotion.

    Over a decade experience on this rollercoaster has proven it, and many people here have had the illness far longer will tell you the same thing.
     
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  18. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    That's one of those ...

    Ah, I see what you did there.
     
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  19. sarah darwins

    sarah darwins I told you I was ill

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    :p I'll keep trying
     
  20. slysaint

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    Surprise!.............there is a book.
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    Thrive - the Changing Limiting Beliefs workbook: Health, Happiness and Success
    byRob Kelly

    Couple of 'cured' ME comments.

    "Over 3 years of post viral fatigue symtoms cured completely once he had worked through this book doing 1 chapter per day. It explained everything he needed to know about how his mind worked, what was causing the problem and most importantly what to do to fix it. "

    "I've had ME for 10 years and have read dozens of books on the subject. Different approaches work for different people, but for me, this book absolutely hit the nail on the head like no other I've read. The basic principle of the book is that M.E., and many other illnesses, are caused by negative thinking. The book helps you to recognise the negative thought patterns you're running and to replace them with positive ones. Simple exercises, such as listing your achievements, help you to increase your sense of self esteem, and control over your life. "

    yawn..........I'm getting very bored with these.
     
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