6 months on B12 protocol, in between rock & hard place. Then along comes glutathione.

[Gondwanaland]

I'm not tolerating B2 (possibly because I'm lacking the T4 to convert it).

Take the coenzimated version just like @ahmo ! She doesn't tolerate the B2 probably for the same reason

 

[picante]

Take the coenzimated version just like @ahmo ! She doesn't tolerate the B2 probably for the same reason

That is the form I was taking. Source Naturals coenzymated B-2 (FMN). It has sorbitol & mannitol, so it's causing gut problems in addition to utterly zapping my energy.

I need to get tests to evaluate FMN-to-FAD conversion, but I'm not sure what they're called.

 

[Gondwanaland]

Darn! Were you taking any copper then?

 

[picante]

Darn! Were you taking any copper then?

In December, yes. That's when it recreated my low-back inflammation.

In April, no. It didn't give me back inflammation 'cuz I was only taking 1/8 tablet.

 

[Gondwanaland]

I will have to sleep on it. G'night!

 

[picante]

Not to worry, Izzy! I just found this: http://www.acu-cell.com/pna.html

Phosphorus aids muscle contraction, acts as a buffer for acid-base balance in the body, helps regulate the heartbeat, and supports proper nerve conduction. It is also necessary for the conversion of niacin and riboflavin to their active coenzyme forms.

I've never supplemented phosphorus, although I eat plenty of meat, nuts, eggs, and fruits.

But I also take Himalayan Sea Salt as a detoxifier and to try and retain water better, as it tends to drain out of me. Perhaps my phosphorus/sodium balance is out of whack.

 

[picante]

Duh! Riboflavin 5-phosphate would be the form to try! I wish I could get this somewhere:

For anyone from the UK/Europe who's interested. There's a liquid form of riboflavin 5 phosphate available at: http://www.metabolics.com/Liquid-Vitamins/Riboflavin-5-Phosphate-250ml/flypage_images.tpl.html

 

[ahmo]

@picante, there's 25mg in this activated B complex I'm using:
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-activated-b-complex-high-bioavailability-60-veg-caps

 

[Gondwanaland]

Duh! Riboflavin 5-phosphate would be the form to try! I wish I could get this somewhere:

http://www.iherb.com/Thorne-Research-Riboflavin-5-Phosphate-60-Veggie-Caps/18434

 

[picante]

Thanks, @ahmo & @Gondwanaland! I found one that's even lower (10 mg):
https://www.pureformulas.com/riboflavin5phosphate-10mg-100-capsules-by-douglas-laboratories.html

And since I'll be taking it out of the capsule anyway (gelatin), I can split it in half or thirds if I need to. I was taking 1/8 tab of the coenzymated B2 (it had 25 mg FMN ÷ 8 = 3.125).

Liquid drops would be ideal, but I guess I'd have to order them from the UK. I love my ionic mineral drops.

 

[ahmo]

@picante why not dissolve in distilled water? This is how I now turn my 50mg naltrexone tabs into LDN. img substance:1ml water. easy peasy.

 

[picante]

@picante why not dissolve in distilled water? This is how I now turn my 50mg naltrexone tabs into LDN. img substance:1ml water. easy peasy.

Excellent idea, ahmo.

I love my mineral drops because there are no additives. Zilch. If I could get rid of the "vegetable stearate" in these capsules and all my other supps, I'd be a happy camper indeed.

 

[picante]

I'm going to start yet another(!) thread on B2, because you two kept urging me on, and now I've found some important info I've never seen before.

 

[picante]

I've never supplemented phosphorus, although I eat plenty of meat, nuts, eggs, and fruits.

Woops, that's not true. I take phosphorylated serine every evening (Seriphos). I have no idea whether that actually boosts my phosphorus levels, though.

 

[picante]

I'm ditching the L-glutathione cream. Came to the same conclusion Freddd did. Update here:
UPDATE: I was taking the reduced L-glutathione cream, half the recommended dose, for about 5 days...