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    Potential risks of thiol supps: IV glutathione, alpha lipoic acid (ALA), N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) etc

    Sorry to break the chain of conversation but before I forget I also found the following summary very useful as it explains some of the complex topics in plain english! http://stasosphere.com/experience-life/2014/04/toxic-mercury-chelation-removal/#Removing_the_Toxic_Sources_First
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    Potential risks of thiol supps: IV glutathione, alpha lipoic acid (ALA), N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) etc

    @SDSue and @Sidereal - When I took Lipsomal Glutathione I suffered severe constant fatigue and brain fog which was significantly worsened by a single dose of ALA (yes it really can be that dangerous) until I came across Cutlers work. As others have mentioned it is well worth doing your homework...
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    Potential risks of thiol supps: IV glutathione, alpha lipoic acid (ALA), N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) etc

    @SDSue - like you I took both Glutathione and ALA once and was wiped out. The only way back is following the Cutler Protocol - many have succeeded (only use ALA in regular, low doses according to Cutlers protocl). Following the guidelines and taking methylation supps have taken me from...
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    Glutathione: Pro / Con arguments confuse me!

    My 2c - After being completely wiped out by taking glutathione (I am still recovering nearly a year later) I have found some guidance from Andy Cutlers amalgam illness book which is critically important when considering glutathione or NAC. Cutler says that usually you are one or the other of...
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    Advice for mercury chelation protocol?

    There are a lot of dangerous chelation practices out on the internet which can do a lot of harm to those of us who are already suffering (a lot of people have made themselves a lot sicker through the wrong approaches). Chelating safely is a complicated business and needs to consider the...
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    HELP!: How to get out of Methyl Trap caused by Glutathione supplements?

    @knackers323 Oral L-Glutathione liquid (1tsp) x 3 days
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    HELP!: How to get out of Methyl Trap caused by Glutathione supplements?

    Thanks everyone for your comments and ideas - I am taking b complex etc, all essential co-factors and the deadlock quartet but am not sure about the levels of MB-12, AD-B12 and Folate needed to get out of the trap (I have tried a week of high doses -> 6mg mfolate, 10mg MB-12 and 20mg ADB12 +1g...
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    HELP!: How to get out of Methyl Trap caused by Glutathione supplements?

    I was on a similar methylation protocol to active b12 for several months and had made quite a bit of progress - better energy and some symptoms improving. Under recommendations from my practitioner I tried some L-Glutathione (3 x times) from which I ended up worse than when I started the...