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    Gulf War Illness (/CFS): two subgroups in response to exercise challenge?

    Thanks for the welcome, the clarification, and of course for reporting on these papers. I am astonished that the VO2 max thing was not what I thought. Wow. So nothing is ever simple after all... I hope that my surmise/assumption/guess will be true--that some second-day tests are so messed-up...
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    Gulf War Illness (/CFS): two subgroups in response to exercise challenge?

    Also, it is hard to express my irritation with STOPP "Stress Test Occurring Phantom Perception". First of all, they operationalized it into "tender point exams." That's all it is. Those are controversial as to what they even represent. Maybe in the study it was meant to represent changes...
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    Gulf War Illness (/CFS): two subgroups in response to exercise challenge?

    I'm disappointed to see here what seems like Snell waffling-- or, even more disappointing, what seems like Snell trying to confuse the issue. I think the two-day exercise test is so important because it demonstrates that THERE EXIST people whose VO2 max drops on the second day. Because of...