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Reverse Mitochondrial Damage 101

Radio

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btw radio, I totally agree the basic issue for CFS/ME is mitochondrial dysfunction that need to be adressed. I did have my ATP measured 2 yrs ago, and now my hope is leaving me a bit, although I didn't try all of the possible things yet for financial reasons. That NT Factor thing I don't buy into even though I'm desperate for a solution, because just googeling for "nt factor mitochondrial" gives me mostly results of claims of the company and people selling that stuff. (not saying that you're one of them)

Impossible?
Fortunately there is hope...Read my story...http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/how-i-recovered-from-cfs-part-2.28684/
 

amaru7

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Yes, your mitochondrial defect was not too far gone luckily, but there's alot of text for my energy to read your whole story now, but I will have a look when I can. You seem to have researched alot until you found what works for you and one issue is there I wonder if you know of:

Overmethylators like myself, is Betaine HCL suitable? Couldn't find an answer nowhere but probably it is because TMG is not and Betaine HCL has Betaine, so I would have to depend on zinc to increase my stomach acid, right? I don't want to drink pure HCL, that would be a bad idea^^

Look on GH (for most too expensive)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2243230/

and EPO (also expensive but promising)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20395592
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21597884

also Thyroid hormone
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12552316
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18279015
 

Radio

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Yes, your mitochondrial defect was not too far gone luckily, but there's alot of text for my energy to read your whole story now, but I will have a look when I can. You seem to have researched alot until you found what works for you and one issue is there I wonder if you know of:

Overmethylators like myself, is Betaine HCL suitable? Couldn't find an answer nowhere but probably it is because TMG is not and Betaine HCL has Betaine, so I would have to depend on zinc to increase my stomach acid, right? I don't want to drink pure HCL, that would be a bad idea^^

Look on GH (for most too expensive)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2243230/

and EPO (also expensive but promising)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20395592
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21597884

also Thyroid hormone
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12552316
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18279015

Radio: (Warning COM +/+ mutation), HCL Betaine is a methyl donor.


Thanks for the links. Yes, zinc is needed big time, thyroid is a factor in Hypochlorhydria as well. We also need to identify and treat H-pylori and gastritis first, before we can implement HCL therapy. COMT +/+ could benefit from bitters, enzymes and other beneficial natural strategies.
 
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Leopardtail

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Mitochondria and hormones, i have been looking into their connection as well as cholesterol. My cholesterol fluctuates abit from high to within normal range but high. Recently my cholesterol came back quite high and my doc offered a statin, not keen. Then i realised there was a couple of things i had stopped which could be the reason for the high cholesterol.

One was i stopped acetyl carnitine. I had put of 10kg since i stopped this at the end of last year with no change in diet or activity. carnitine is suppose to help the mitochondria with fat metabolism??

The other thing was i stopped pregnenolone, now pregnenolone is made in the mitochondria from our friend cholesterol. Pregnenolone then filters down and is used to make other hormones as well as having its own functions in the body. High cholesterol can be a sign of low hormone issues as the liver increases cholesterol production( thats right its made in the liver not from that juicy piece of meat) to compensate for these hormones, in hope that pregnenolone will be made in the mitochondria and then used to make other hormones such as sex and adrenal hormones. Something is missing or going wrong between the cholesterol and the pregnenolone, could it be alot of these co factors such as carnitine, q10, nad and others that are frequently mentioned in mito disorders.

Im guessing that supplying pregnenolone will lower the need for cholesterol so the liver will reduce production, i guess its hit and miss as to which co-factors are missing to help the mitos produce pregnenolone, for me i think carnitine is a peice of the puzzle?

cheers!!!
Heaps,

the full picture is complex and impossible to answer definitely without research.

The first thing to understand is that Cholesterol is made mainly within the liver only 25% or less comes from diet.

ALCAR directly assists the burning of lipids as fuel.

The next is that 'bad' cholesterol is good stuff (yep I know sounds daft) its needed to make all steroid hormones. These include Testosterone (often in short supply) to make Aldosterone (daytime anti-urine hormone often in short supply) and Cortisol (often in short supply). Each of these active hormones is controlled by releasing hormones to cause it's production. Those releasing hormones can stimulate large amounts of 'bad' cholesterol production because the active hormones are made from it. Until your hypothalamus becomes dead in the water your glands lacking energy, and producing too little active hormone, would cause excessive releasing hormones and thus cholesterol. This had not been researched.

Second cholesterol is used to produce cells walls and for many other functions. The role of lack of growth hormone and lack of general activity may well cause under-use of

Finally ALCAR assist energy production in multiple ways including: direct protection of Aerobic energy production, protection of CoQ10, improved production of many of the 'substrates' of energy production; protection of Methylation that in turn improves re-generation of Mitochondria.

regards,

Leo
 

Leopardtail

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Yes, your mitochondrial defect was not too far gone luckily, but there's alot of text for my energy to read your whole story now, but I will have a look when I can. You seem to have researched alot until you found what works for you and one issue is there I wonder if you know of:

Overmethylators like myself, is Betaine HCL suitable? Couldn't find an answer nowhere but probably it is because TMG is not and Betaine HCL has Betaine, so I would have to depend on zinc to increase my stomach acid, right? I don't want to drink pure HCL, that would be a bad idea^^

Look on GH (for most too expensive)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2243230/

and EPO (also expensive but promising)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20395592
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21597884

also Thyroid hormone
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12552316
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18279015
Consider PQQ (not mega expensive) or periodic carb fasting (free), both support Mito renewal.
 

Radio

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Consider PQQ (not mega expensive) or periodic carb fasting (free), both support Mito renewal.

Carbohydrate fasting not recommend when you have mitochondria disease, we need glycogen supportive foods to fuel the damage mito and to compensate for the glycogen storage issue. Also, there are hypoglycemic subgroups to contemplate. I know there is a good amount of research on mitochondria and fasting. Regretfully, this is not a good idea when you are dealing with a progressive mitochondria disease.

Radio Note:
I do like Life Extension Super Ubiquniol Coq10 With BioPQQ. :thumbsup:


Life Extension Super Ubiquniol Coq10 With BioPQQ

http://www.iherb.com/Life-Extension-Super-Ubiquinol-CoQ10-with-BioQQ-100-mg-30-Softgels/50706#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=Extension Super Ubiquniol Coq10 With BioPQQ&rc=7&sr=null&ic=1
 
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amaru7

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Radio: (Warning COM +/+ mutation), HCL Betaine is a methyl donor.


Thanks for the links. Yes, zinc is needed big time, thyroid is a factor in Hypochlorhydria as well. We also need to identify and treat H-pylori and gastritis first, before we can implement HCL therapy. COMT +/+ could benefit from bitters, enzymes and other beneficial natural strategies.
Thats sad, that I cannot use my Betaine HCL, already bought half a pound of that stuff ;(
Well I'll try with zinc and iodine then, hope I can reach a near as good as hcl pH
 

Aerose91

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Thats sad, that I cannot use my Betaine HCL, already bought half a pound of that stuff ;(
Well I'll try with zinc and iodine then, hope I can reach a near as good as hcl pH


Can't ascorbic acid and Apple cider vinegar also be used to aid in digestion before meals?
 

tdog333

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Thats sad, that I cannot use my Betaine HCL, already bought half a pound of that stuff ;(
Well I'll try with zinc and iodine then, hope I can reach a near as good as hcl pH

That doesn't mean you can't use betaine HCL, you just need to watch for a response. I have double COMT's and MTHFR MTR MTRR all +/+ and I take 15+ betaine tablets a day. But I do start to notice a bit of anxiety once I pass that number. It's gonna be different for everyone, just because you have a homozygous mutation doesn't mean your body hasn't found an alternative pathway. If it gets bad you can use niacin to soak some methyl groups and use up your SAMe

Aerose is right about ascorbic acid and ACV as well- just dont use too much water as it will dilute more than it helps
 

amaru7

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Great news, there is nothing better than betaine HCL for stomach acid. Ascorbic Acid doesn't even come close as it's less acidic than the stomach acid itself.
 

Sporty

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Lipid replacement therapy can potentially help everyone in this forum. It does not matter which subgroup of CFS/ME you are in. The core of the problem has always been acquired mitochondrial damage. Repairing the Mitochondrial is the first step in healing.This is one of the missing links in the chain to recovery. At this point, the fact is, we need Mitochondrial support.

The Mitochondria can becomes damaged and leaky from an overload of metabolic waste. Phospholipids and glycolipids can repair cellular membranes by increasing cell membrane fluidity. By repairing these membranes we allow our cells to increase their nutrient uptake so that the mitochondria may product more ATP.


Acquired mitochondrial damage is a normal part of aging, but is accelerated in chronic fatigue syndrome and many other metabolic disorders. We must address this before complete healing can be initiated. Phospholipids replacement therapy and eating a super clean diet is the first critical steps in repairing this damage. Chronic deficiencies and Methylation imbalance destroys the mitochondrial membranes and lead to the modern day diseases we see today.

How I Heal My Mitochondria, (Simplified Recovery Protocol)

1. Super clean diet (The low histamine Chef Diet + Organic rice) No coffee, No table salt (Just Eat Real Food).

2. High dose Phospholipid therapy, NT Factor powder or Smart Youthful Energy Wafers 2-4xday Look for link at the bottom of this page. BodyBio PC is another supplement to consider if you have the money. Digestive supplementation is recommended to increase the absorption of the phospholipids.

3. Mineral Deficiencies Support, Pure encapsulations Mineral 650 or Pure encapsulations Trace Mineral 1xday...look for link at bottom of this page.

4. Low Dose Methylation Support, Fred's B12 Methylation Protocol <---(last step), Also, Limit P5P (pyridoxal-5-phosphate) inhibits PST (phenol sulphur-transferase) activity. P5P is not water soluble and can build up in the body damaging the peripheral nervous system.


I have discovered that if I focused on supporting the mitochondria first, I was able to tolerate the B12 protocol with out triggering the potassium depletion. Also, my cells needed less active B vitamins because absorption into the cell was increased dramatically.

By repairing the mitochondria first, we allow our cells to increase their nutrient uptake so that methylation support will have the most dramatic effect. Lipid replacement therapy is a critical step in balancing methylation without over-driving this metabolism.


NT Factor does not contain any soy proteins, the source of soy antigens that cause allergic reactions.The phospholipids extracted from soy are exactly the same phospholipids that are in your cell membranes of every cell in your body.

The advantage of NT Factor over foods ( Soy ) that contain lipids is that NT Factor lipids are protected from oxidative damage during storage, digestion and intake into your body. Food lipids are not protected, and you are taking in oxidative-damaged lipids as well as natural lipids.


Lipid Replacement Therapy
Lipid replacement therapy (LRT) has been used along with other strategies, such as antioxidant therapy, to replace damaged or oxidized cellular lipids that accumulate during aging and in various clinical conditions. Differing from traditional lipid nutritional supplementation, LTR replacement lipids are protected from oxidation and damage during storage, ingestion and digestion. Important lipids that require constant replacement are phospholipids, glycophospholipids and other lipids that make up cellular and organelle membranes, especially mitochondrial membranes. Decreased mitochondrial function and loss in the efficiency of the electron transport chain are related to aging and fatigue. Oxidative damage to mitochondria, mainly from Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS), results in peroxidation of cellular and mitochondrial lipids, proteins and DNA, but it is ROS damage to mitochondrial membrane lipids that may cause the most rapid loss of mitochondrial function. LRT along with antioxidants can circumvent ROS membrane damage and replace and restore mitochondrial and other cellular membrane functions via delivery of replacement lipids in their unoxidized, undamaged states. Recent clinical trials have shown the benefit of LRT plus antioxidants in restoring mitochondrial electron transport function and reducing fatigue. Look for the NT factor with phospholipids (only) with "NO" add supplements. It has to be just plan NT Factor.

NT Factor Proprietary Lipid Blend 12,00mg
Phosphatidic acid (PA)
Phosphatidyl-choline (PC)
Phosphatidyl-ethanolamine (PE)
Phosphatidyl-glycerol(PG)
Phosphatidyl-inositol (PI)
Phosphatidyl-serine (PS)
Digalactosyldiacylglyceride (DGDG)
Monoglactosyldiacylglyceride (MGDG)


Nicolson 2014 - Use of Natural Supplements to Improve Mitochondrial Function (CFS)
Full paper available here:
http://functionalfoodscenter.net/files/81845995.pdf





CFS - The Central Cause: Mitochondrial Failure

http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_The_Central_Cause:_Mitochondrial_Failure



BodyBio PC

E-Lyte's BodyBio PC is a concentrated Phosphatidyl Choline/Lecithin product. It is available in liquid or capsule form. Clearly with the liquid then although you need to measure it up, there is no capsule consumption each time. Each capsule contains 900mg of 'phospholipid complex'. Of this 900mg of phospholipid complex, approximately 450-605mg is Phosphatidyl Choline, according to the manufacturer's UK distributor, although this fact is not stated on the product packaging. According to this source, the average content of Phosphatidyl Choline per capsule is 528mg, with and a smaller amount of Phosphatidyl Ethanolamine and Phosphatidyl Inositol and minor glycolipids. If this is indeed correct, then it would make it the most concentrated source of Phosphatidyl Choline capsule on the market, at 58%. The quoted phospholipid content is quoted at 66%.

BodyBio PC also contains a 4:1 ratio of Linoleic Acid (LA - Omega 6) and Alpha-Linolenic Acid (ALA - Omega 3) Essential Fatty Acids (EFA), but it is not known what the exact ratio of Lecithin concentrate to EFAs that make up the 900mg of 'Phospholipid Compex'. The ingredients state that the total fat content is 900mg, of which the saturated fat content is 200mg, the polynunsaturated fat content is 600mg and the monounsaturated fat content is 110mg. As the ingredients do not specify the exact amounts of each, and polyunsaturates describes both the Phospholipids (propotion of the Lecithin) and the Essential Fatty Acids, then it is not very helpful (presumably for anti-competitive reasons). However, the figures cannot be quite correct as the ingredients are listed as being solely fat, yet the total calories per capsule is 9 (of which 8 come from fat - the other 9% coming from carbohydrates - which are not listed on the ingredients).

BodyBio PC is also available in liquid form, where 1 tsp (teaspoon) contains 1500-1800mg of Phosphatidyl Choline.

The target daily dosage of Body Bio PC capsules is 4 capsules twice a day (or 3 capsules three times a day - which is slightly more), providing between 3.6 - 4.85g of Phosphatidyl Choline.

You may wish to increase the dosage over time, but this is best done with advice from your medical practitioner. Some people, including myself, have found at certain points in time that taking 4 capsules 3 times a day (i.e. a total of 12, providing between 5.4 - 7.25g of Phosphatidyl Choline) is a comfortable upper limit (after a few months at 8 capsules a day). This clearly depends on the individual however. Indeed at other times, a much reduced limit was tolerated, depending on general liver health and glucuonidation pathway efficiency in the liver.


The integrity of mitochondrial membranes is critical to cell function and energy metabolism. This membrane is the frontier between cell survival and death.

Lipid Replacement Therapy®, Fatigue and Dysbiosis – the Mitochondrial and Immune Connection http://www.nleducation.co.uk/resour...osis-the-mitochondrial-and-immune-connection/

Lipid Replacement Therapy with a Glycophospholipid Formulation with NADH and CoQ10 Significantly Reduces Fatigue in Intractable Chronic Fatiguing Illnesses and Chronic Lyme Disease Patients
http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=19382#.UvwAGbRYw-8

A Modern Approach to the Treatment of Mitochondrial Disease
http://www.epidemicanswers.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Modern-Approach-to-Treatment-of-Mito.pdf


Supplements


BodyBio PC
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001169CF6...=UTF8&colid=STE6K5DNMJYK&coliid=IJ444PD8I5XBI

Now foods super enzymes
http://www.iherb.com/search?sug=now foods super enzymes&kw=now foods su&rank=4#p=1

NT Factor (Nutri cology Nt factor) http://www.iherb.com/Nutricology-NT-Factor-EnergyLipids-Powder-150-grams/45698#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=NT Factor (Nutri cology Nt factor)&rc=12&sr=null&ic=3

Smart Youthful Energy Wafers www.amazon.com/Energy-Chewable-Wafers-Factor-Lipids/dp/B00DMINPRM

Pure encapsulations Mineral 650 1xday or Pure encapsulations Trace Mineral 1xday
http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Encapsula...apsulations Trace Mineral&rc=238&sr=null&ic=

Life Extension, Super Ubiquinol CoQ10 with Enhanced Mitochondrial Support, 50 mg, 2xday http://www.iherb.com/Life-Extension-Super-Ubiquinol-CoQ10-with-Enhanced-Mitochondrial-Support-50-mg-100-Softgels/22796#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=Super Ubiquinol Coq-10 W Enhanced Mitochondrial&rc=8&sr=null&ic=1


Disclaimer, The information in this thread is not intended to be medical advice. The information is meant to inspire and motivate you to make your own decisions surrounding your health care and dietary needs. It is intended for educational and informational purposes only. You should not rely upon any information found on this thread to determine dietary changes, a medical diagnosis or course of treatment. Readers should perform their own research and make decisions in partnership with their own health care providers. Any statements or claims about the possible health benefits obtained from any foods or supplements mentioned on this thread have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. The Recovery Protocol in the thread is not acting in the capacity of a doctor, licensed dietician, licensed nutritionist, psychologist or other licensed or registered professional. This thread is for educational purposes only to document that recovery is possible.


Hi, I'm 8 weeks into my mitochondria supplement regime now and after what I thought was an initial step up I'm now back to struggling a bit more again. Is there any time frames with this? How long does one continue on the sups before knowing one way or the other if it's working or going to work? Cheers si
 

Radio

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Hi, I'm 8 weeks into my mitochondria supplement regime now and after what I thought was an initial step up I'm now back to struggling a bit more again. Is there any time frames with this? How long does one continue on the sups before knowing one way or the other if it's working or going to work? Cheers si


You could look into IV lipid replacement (The Patricia Kane protocol) The oral PC therapy may not be in high enough dosage for you to absorb into your system. See more here http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...reatment-the-pk-patricia-kane-protocol.29249/

Also, we need to look at all contributing factors.

We need mitochondria support that's a fact. But, there is a catch 22 at play here. The main focus is to treat and control the dysbiosis imbalances as well as fuel and support the mitochondria without generating more metabolic waste. We need carbohydrate to help drive and fuel mitochondria function without triggering a inflammatory (Mast-cell) response. This is why diet is one of the key factors in recovery. I'm working on posting more threads to help forum members better understand the root cause of these imbalances.

The main goal is to preventing Apoptosis cell death and it's imperative that we start mitochondria supportive therapy at the on set of CFS/ME.
 
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Sporty

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You could look into IV lipid replacement (The Patricia Kane protocol) The oral PC therapy may not be in high enough dosage for you to absorb into your system. See more here http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...reatment-the-pk-patricia-kane-protocol.29249/

Also, we need to look at all contributing factors.

We need mitochondria support that's a fact. But, there is a catch 22 at play here. The main focus is to treat and control the dysbiosis imbalances as well as fuel and support the mitochondria without generating more metabolic waste. We need carbohydrate to help drive and fuel mitochondria function without triggering a inflammatory (Mast-cell) response. This is why diet is one of the key factors in recovery. I'm working on posting more threads to help forum members better understand the root cause of these imbalances.

The main goal is to preventing Apoptosis cell death and it's imperative that we start mitochondria supportive therapy at the on set of CFS/ME.

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

Blimey Radio, slow down! Lol bit complicated for a novice like me :0)

What's, PC therapy?

Yes I've had a stool test and I have gut issues. Low stomach acid, low good bacteria etc. foul wind if I have more than a little sugar. I was told to keep off the simple carbs.

As for the mito therapy....I'm taking L-Carnatite, D-Ribose, vit c, multi vits and mins, Co Q 10,B 12 and Mag injections. Does that cover things? :0)

Cheers
Si
 

Hip

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Note: The Nutricology NT Factor EnergyLipids Powder tub contains 150 grams in total.

The plastic scoop that comes with the tub holds 1.4 grams, for a level amount (ie, not heaped).

Therefore if you take 4 such scoops each day, this tub will last you 27 days.

If you take 2 scoops a day, this tub will last you 54 days.



PureFormulas sell this product for $44.

The US Amazon price for this product seems to be cheap, at around $47.

iHerb are charging $70.

Those in the UK can order from iHerb, at a total cost of £43, including DHL 2-4 day courier international shipping. But of course 20% VAT tax will be charged by the courier, increasing the total cost to around £52.


If you are buying the UK, there are some ludicrously high prices, with one Amazon UK seller charging £117 for this same tub.

However, other sellers on Amazon UK are charging £75.
 
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Radio

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Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

Blimey Radio, slow down! Lol bit complicated for a novice like me :0)

What's, PC therapy?

Yes I've had a stool test and I have gut issues. Low stomach acid, low good bacteria etc. foul wind if I have more than a little sugar. I was told to keep off the simple carbs.

As for the mito therapy....I'm taking L-Carnatite, D-Ribose, vit c, multi vits and mins, Co Q 10,B 12 and Mag injections. Does that cover things? :0)

Cheers
Si
What's, PC therapy?

This kind of therapy helps rebuild the damage phospholipids and other lipids that make up cellular mitochondrial membranes. The Mitochondria can becomes damaged and leaky from an overload of metabolic waste. By repairing these membranes we allow our cells to increase their nutrient uptake so that the mitochondria can product more ATP. I will be posting my new updated Mitochondria protocol soon.

I am working on build a solid theory to the root cause of this syndrome. We need to address the underline cause before we can develop protocols that will be beneficial to long term wellness.
 

Radio

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Note: The Nutricology NT Factor EnergyLipids Powder tub contains 150 grams in total

The plastic scoop that comes with the tub holds 1.4 grams, for level amount.

Therefore if you take 4 such scoops each day, this tub will last you 27 days.

If you take 2 scoops a day, this tub will last you 54 days.



PureFormulas sell this product for $44.

The US Amazon price for this product seems to be cheap, at around $47.

iHerb are charging $70.

Those in the UK can order from iHerb, at a total cost of £43, including DHL 2-4 day courier shipping. But of course 20% VAT tax will be charged by the courier, increasing the total cost to around £52.


If you are buying the UK, there are some ludicrously high prices, with one Amazon UK seller charging £117 for this same tub.

However, other sellers on Amazon UK are charging £75.

Hip, Thank you for providing this great detailed information on NT Factor lipid support. :thumbsup:
 

Sporty

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Radio, if I give you my currant supplement/medication regime could you possibly suggest if I am missing something to my regime....?


quote="Radio, post: 446955, member: 12704"]What's, PC therapy?

This kind of therapy helps rebuild the damage phospholipids and other lipids that make up cellular mitochondrial membranes. The Mitochondria can becomes damaged and leaky from an overload of metabolic waste. By repairing these membranes we allow our cells to increase their nutrient uptake so that the mitochondria can product more ATP. I will be posting my new updated Mitochondria protocol soon.

I am working on build a solid theory to the root cause of this syndrome. We need to address the underline cause before we can develop protocols that will be beneficial to long term wellness.[/quote]