I think we shold follow the old adage, "if you do not have anything nice to say, then don't say anything."
I agree, though I suspect it would cause this thread to go silent.
Deafeningly so.
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I think we shold follow the old adage, "if you do not have anything nice to say, then don't say anything."
GO to CAA facebook page and read what s. vernon has to say.....her view, i disagree and reserve the right to disagree loudly and strongly.So we should hold Obama accountable for the lack of progress on our illness now? (Re: Reagan)
Also, I think Jen is speaking on her behalf, not CAAs.
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Nana-ism: "Just because you have the right to do (or say) something, it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do (or say)."
I am appalled by Reeves' professional attitudes and activities. I still think, like Levi, that it's bad form to bash the man publicly so soon after his demise. He probably has family that is in acute pain at the moment from the loss of Reeves, the man -- their friend, or husband, or father. We have the rest of our lives to show what Reeves, the CDC official, has done to our live; we can choose to give those grieving the man a little time to adjust without immediately screaming our anger publicly.
That's my opinion on decent human behavior under the circumstances. Other people will have other opinions they will express. That's life in the free world. We have the right to choose what we say publicly. We don't all have to like what others choose to say or not say.
I don't think anyone here is telling anyone else what they may or may not say. But what you choose to say (or not say) tells your listeners something about your character. I think that's what some people in this thread are trying to remind us.
Of course, condolences to friends and family for their loss. Personally, I believe it is ubiquitous bad form to speak ill of the recently demised. Looks like his employer the CDC will need to invest some resources in order to update his bio:
http://www.cdc.gov/osels/leadership/bios/reeves.html
my character is i am pissed off that my life has been lost to this inisidious disease and the man who was chartered with investigating it....pushed it into a dark corner and through a dusty rug over it.....tha's my character...is yours better because you are polite and refuse to speak ill of the man responsible for this suffering. if that is is your beleif, then so be it.
i know what my character is...it is to fight for my life and to take any oppty i can to shine light on our suffering and the terrible way we were treated by BILL REEVES.....yes it was he who was responsible....so now that he is being talked about because of his death it is my duty to remind ppl what a terrible job he did in managing the research, containment and treatment of ME!!!!!!
did you then have good things to say about bin laden and quadaffi when they died......did you ignore their crimes so as not to offend their families after these criminals died?
if you did not then your stmt is hypocritical......if you did then you do know how to turn the other cheek....that works for you...not for me.
(snipped)My concern is that callous jokes made following someone's death could easily be used as a stick to beat us with and further undermine our legitimacy.
I would echo the sentiment expressed in Jennie's quote, copied above.
However undeserved, we face a massive credibility gap in the minds of the public, many of whom have been led to believe we are either everyday moaners exemplified or suffer from some form of complex somatoform disorder. Given that gap, we cannot afford to be unnecessarily callous toward our enemies (however emotionally satisfying it may be), lest our antipathy be interpreted in a public forum as unfounded hatred and thereby reinforce the stereotypes that already dog us. If we hope one day that cooler heads will prevail with respect to biomedical research for our illness, we must learn to be cool ourselves (despite the horrible destruction of our quality of life by this long ignored disease) and to channel our energy in productive ways. It will be difficult to take that high road, but meeting callousness with callousness not only does us no favors, but may erode the foundations of the nascent progress long-time advocates are beginning to see.
So we should hold Obama accountable for the lack of progress on our illness now? (Re: Reagan)
I agree, though I suspect it would cause this thread to go silent.
Deafeningly so.
My concern is that callous jokes made following someone's death could easily be used as a stick to beat us with and further undermine our legitimacy.