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Why The Lancet won't reject the 'Graded Exercise Therapy' study

Kenny Banya

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Money. Plain and simple.

If the retraction occurs, the researchers' careers will probably be over - you don't want that mark against you. So they would have been pressuring the relevant powers at The Lancet.

As for The Lancet, it loses circulation & hence revenue from becoming known as a sloppy journal. Also the Editor loses face, personally.

You just need to look at the parallel in the science of anthropogenic global warming - scientists learnt that some journals are poorer than others. Energy and Environment is a good example:
http://journals.sagepub.com/home/eae
Any reputable climate scientist will not touch this journal with a barge pole. It has poor to non-existent peer review & it was uncovered that the Editor, Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, has an agenda against anthropogenic global warming - probably due to political (conservative) ideology:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonja_Boehmer-Christiansen (see Views on Climate Change)

If you know someone with money, instigate a lawsuit against The Lancet for printing misleading information - lies. Like I said, if you know someone with money. (Actually it wouldn't take much money - just intend to at least instigate the lawsuit with a complementary media announcement. Should do the trick)
 

Alvin2

The good news is patients don't die the bad news..
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If OMF determines a cause and pathway and shows scientifically why GET and CBT won't work publish that in Nature or Science, then beat Lancet over the head with it until they cry Uncle
Worth asking Ron Davis to do in a future Q&A after they map out the disease pathway?
 
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me/cfs 27931

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doesn't everyone know that study is crap? I guess not.. the Mayo Clinic still has the GET therapy promoted as a 'cure'
Like many HMO's, mine pulls information on their website from Healthwise. The recommendations are for GET and CBT, and PACE is used as evidence of effectiveness.

http://www.healthwise.org

David Tuller has written a bit about Healthwise.

I've written to Healthwise twice in the past year about the problems with the PACE Trial, and lack of evidence for the effectiveness of GET. I have not received a reply.

If you'd like to give feedback to Healthwise, here is their contact page:

http://www.healthwise.org/contactus.aspx