Tom Kindlon
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Second, the psychiatrisation of conditions like Myalgic Encephalopathy/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) where organic and physical conditions become ‘all in the mind’. Here, whilst there is a complex inter-relationship between the mind and body, psychiatric reductionism has resulted in a catalogue of instances of maltreatment, neglect and abuse.
The idea of "healing" this "rift" makes me feel kind of crazy - it's like you get mugged by someone, and then are asked to "heal" the "rift" between you and the mugger (psychiatry).
Yea, I get the same feeling when I read statements about how "trust has been lost" between CFS patients and the medical profession. Patients shouldn't have to work to gain the trust of their doctors. That should be implicit in the relationship. Its doctors need to work to gain the trust their patients. The trust burden is entirely on them.The idea of "healing" this "rift" makes me feel kind of crazy - it's like you get mugged by someone, and then are asked to "heal" the "rift" between you and the mugger (psychiatry).
they are not yet ready to realise they mistake, give them a century of two, IF PSYCHIATRISTS STILL EXIST BY THAT TIMEI'm not sure what to think about this. Spandler says in part:
She seems to be saying there is mistreatment of ME/CFS patients, but at the same time states there is a body-mind connection resulting in ME/CFS - so apparently it is all in our heads, but we have not been treated properly by the shrinks?
The idea of "healing" this "rift" makes me feel kind of crazy - it's like you get mugged by someone, and then are asked to "heal" the "rift" between you and the mugger (psychiatry).
I guess she's well-intentioned but her thinking seems rather muddled.
I was reminded of all this watching Paranoia on Netflix the other day. (alert; spoiler coming). The villain is a shrink who really uses his self-proclaimed knowledge of people's psyches to manipulate and control. Whenever someone in the village tries to question him, he turns it around on them by suggesting they are becoming upset or paranoid and clearly need urgent treatment.Psychiatry is a wonderful playground for the arrogant and the bullying. They are given huge power to manage themselves and they are given a level of control over individuals that would simply be illegal in any other field.
Here, whilst there is a complex inter-relationship between the mind and body, psychiatric reductionism has resulted in a catalogue of instances of maltreatment, neglect and abuse.
I thought that at first, but I think that 'here' at the beginning is doing a lot of work. I think it's a specific, rather than general, application about the "complex interplay" waffle.Here is my reading of this: psychiatry has attempted to reduce organic disease to mental disease and this has resulted in neglect and abuse. I think its just worded badly.
I was reminded of all this watching Paranoia on Netflix the other day. (alert; spoiler coming). The villain is a shrink who really uses his self-proclaimed knowledge of people's psyches to manipulate and control. Whenever someone in the village tries to question him, he turns it around on them by suggesting they are becoming upset or paranoid and clearly need urgent treatment.
Sounds kind of familiar, doesn't it?
Psychiatrist Accused of Improper Sex
Medicine: For second time, officials seek action against Santa Ana doctor over an alleged affair.
November 20, 1998
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/nov/20/local/me-45477
A Santa Ana psychiatrist whose license was suspended in 1987 for having an affair with a patient has been accused by state officials of gross negligence and incompetence for having a sexual relationship with another client.
The accusation, filed by the Medical Board of California last month in Sacramento, seeks to revoke 51-year-old Dr. Jeffrey Moran's medical license. Authorities level seven allegations, including having an improper sexual relationship with the 30-year-old patient, excessively prescribing controlled drugs and asking the patient to deny the affair to the medical board.
He also allegedly lied to police in an attempt to have the patient involuntarily committed to a mental institution.
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During the liaison, Moran paid her college tuition, rented her a house, paid for her to have breast augmentation and provided excessive amounts of controlled substances--including narcotics and barbiturates--for the patient by writing prescriptions in the name of her friends or family members, according to the accusation.
The relationship turned to crisis in a stormy meeting in his office on Oct. 16, 1996, when Moran's wife confronted him and the patient, according to the accusation. Moran's wife already had threatened to expose his conduct to the medical board unless he ended the affair.
Moran is accused of attacking the patient in an attempt to restrain her when the patient talked about the affair in front of his wife. The board accused Moran of "grabbing her arms, bending her arms and fingers back, shaking her, and throwing her to the floor." The patient struck her head on a bookcase and received bruises on her arms.
At that point, Moran had his wife call police and "falsely and dishonestly" attempted to have sheriff's deputies put the patient in a psychiatric facility on an involuntary committal "as a danger to herself and others," according to the accusation.
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The board suspended Moran's medical license for six months in 1986 after finding he had a 14-month affair with a patient, who he permitted to drink wine at therapy sessions and with whom he discussed his personal life. This conduct is considered "gross negligence and an extreme departure from the practice of psychiatry," according to the administrative law judge who heard the case.