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The Mental Elf: Simon Wessely on PACE

Sidereal

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SW said:
So moving on from our nautical analogy, I am well informed about clinical trials in general, and about the issues that surround chronic fatigue syndrome in particular. I have previously made it clear that I think that PACE was a good trial; I once described it as a thing of beauty. In this blog I will describe why I still think that and I will try and avoid very technical issues

Yes, god forbid you actually address the technical critiques, let's just stick to fancy talk of cruise ships.
 

Sasha

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Also posted a simple question of whether he approves of the weird fatigue/physical function thresholds.

I'd be amazed if either comment makes it through moderation.
 

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Wessely said:
Meanwhile those originally allocated to SMC and APT improved so that their outcomes were now similar. What isn’t clear is why. It may be because many had CBT and GET after the trial, but it may not.

Total lie/fabrication. The information in the Appendix rejects this hypothesis. Those who received no CBT/GET had the same amount of improvement during the follow-up.
 

Sasha

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So, write a damaging article, then invite critics to disagree. How very reasonable that makes Prof Wessely sound.
But the damage is already done in the high profile article.
 

Sidereal

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Neurasthenia Milkshake
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“In 2015, Professor Wessely offered a spirited defense of the PACE trial that was couched in a ocean liner metaphor (unlike the ‘Oxford says ME not a chronic illness’ shock jocks). This followed a fortnight’s worth of intense criticism towards PACE from journalists and bloggers–but surely not his peers, as Sir Simon Wessely has no peer walking this earth. As he has never been wrong about anything since birth, this blog shall be taken as the ultimate in truth, and fact; so it is written."

LMAO. Standing ovation, sir or madam. :lol:

"Neurasthenia milkshake" hahahahahaha
 

snowathlete

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It's a cruise ship. Yeah. That works.

The PACE Trial for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: choppy seas but a prosperous voyage

http://www.nationalelfservice.net/o...syndrome-choppy-seas-but-a-prosperous-voyage/

"Nothing to see here..."
A cruise ship you say?
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