I take a hint that there's some frustration lying behind this dolphin but it seems very unfair - if I'm missing something let me know. There's a wider issue emerges from this for me that we're going to have to face sooner or later. What happens to those who are XMRV- ? Just to be clear: that's the people who remain chronically ill with something they thought was ME and don't have the right retrovirus, maybe have some other cause, maybe another HGRV, maybe something else, who knows? Still Medically Unexplained - I think we all know what that entails. It's worrying if everyone who tests negative is going to acquire a new army of born-again healthy people to add to their tormentors. I would hope for a little more solidarity. I'm not saying that's what this particular argument was about, I think much more highly of Dolphin than that. But it will be an issue in general. Personally I didn't get tested because it was clearly important that the most clear-cut cases be tested, and I've never said I'm one of those. I have WTF. So I get the point, but it still seems harsh. This argument's over, so we can let it lie, but the wider issue will come up again and again. Maybe worth figuring out the ethics of this ahead of time?