Frustratingly, the science over
non XMRV was never answered, even if the approved explanation pretended it was. No informed individual believes XMRV exists (as simple VP62), as there is no evidence, there is however, evidence of cousins of XMRV existing in cells taken out of patients. The key word, is patients. What the CDC calls a patient, and what Lipkin and Hornig call a patient, is not the same as what people who know what severe ME does, call a patient.
Severe ME created people with cytokines coming out of their ears, decades later (the exact opposite of what Lipkin & Hornig found in people with a chronic fatigue state, they call a CFS). ME isn't a chronic fatigue state and the people with severe ME couldn't walk to the bathroom, never mind attend an outpatients clinic for a blood draw. Oddly, these people are never studied.
The much lauded 'end of retrovirus link to CFS', the Lipkin study did not use CCC CFS, it used an altered version created especially for the final nail in the coffin study. Unfortunately, this meant it wasn't a replication study. Also the patients studied, weren't those from the original study. As 'CFS' is massively heterogeneous, who becomes a patient, is then pot luck and the science is muddled. Therefore, as long as one keeps to pathetic criteria, and people who are diagnosed (using no tests), there is no proof anyone has a 'CFS', and thus findings will always be all over the place, non consistent, and fail totally to prove any association to anything. Thus the myth of psychiatry, is maintained, forever. Until people start looking at bugs in the blood and tissue...
Governments have far much to lose in annoying massive pharmaceutical companies who, by name, are historically linked to various bits and bobs they wished they weren't!
Long term patients with ruined lives are intelligent enough to see this, know this, and accept that if 'CFS' blood infects donor blood (culture) to produce genes associated to MRV's, then your body, has 'something' in it, that is genetically associated to MRV's that shouldn't be there. This is what happened at the WPI. The Blood Working Group 'the blood is safe' study, did not follow the multiple methods of 'XMRV' detection, so that was a non starter. If patients know this, I wonder why people with Phd's don't? Of course they do, hence Mikovits rightly complains, as the situation stinks.
The bottom line is:
*Patients with a diagnosis of CFS and the public, had unexplained antibodies to SFFV in the Lipkin study,
years after the discredited Science paper of 2009. This remains unexplained. We don't know if the 'patients' had genuine ME, or the symptoms of severe ME. If they had, such as those who visited the WPI, the results may have been far higher than those in the general public. (Look at the exclusion critiera for the Lipkin paper, most of the conditions listed are what people with genuine severe ME have). Who benefits from this? Science? No. If AIDS was reduced to Chronic Fatigue + a few symptoms, then 'proving' HIV is associated to AIDS would never work, because many other people with Chronic Fatigue + a few symptoms, would never be HIV positive at all. HIV could thus be de-associate to AIDS, by claims of a maverick scientist... Sound familiar? Elaine DeFreitas might agree too.
*SFFV was described in the original 2009 paper (separate from XMRV a misnomer), but conveniently forgotten about by the Govt cronies out to get Mikovits for exposing the whole rotten situation of past mistakes made. There doesn't have to be a huge conspiracy, it can just be a mistake. People don't like admitting to mistakes, if the mistake is so vast, is simply won't be fairly researched. Some put a lot of play on the fact XMRV was fairly researched at huge expense, (it was) but then curiously forget, the CFS patients never has XMRV in the first place, certainly not the variants looked at, and definitely not SIlverman's Synthetic VP62 he created in his lab (Not Mikovits). Thus, XMRV never existed
in CFS. Thus the potential retrovirus in ME CFS, never has been thoroughly researched. That is Mikovits's beef.
*SFFV or its mutated children, if proven, may have come from vaccine contamination, by a genuine mistake by labs many decades ago, such as from cancer research and xenografting tissue using mouse retroviruses.
It looks like, SFFV will never be investigated in
any human disease, because there is the potential for the red faced cronies in charge to then have evidence against them of covering up information of certain parties accidentally contaminating tens of millions of people. Of these people, an unknown percentage may be dead, or severely ill. The ones alive will need care. No one is paying for that, yet bringing up the 'XMRV is dead' line is pointless.
XMRV never existed in a CFS human, as explained, XMRV was created by Bob Silverman in his lab and tied to Prostate Cancer. What we also don't know is what the relatives of gamma retroviruses are doing in patient 'CFS' cultures, and why patients make antibodies to retroviral cousins of mouseviruses used in cancer research, as do the general public. That is the scary part....
What we do know, is the Americans are testing lab workers for 'XMRV' and close contacts, despite telling the public it doesn't exist in the public. In other words, these lab workers will be studied over their life times to see if their inhaled retroviruses are passed on to others, and then others, and then others. I would imagine the results will remain classified.
Many believe it's best not to tell the public, and put their chronic diseases down to 'autoimmunity' (no cause needed), cancer (no cause needed), or just mental health problems (blame shifted from state to victim). Other believe just deny outright - using psychiatry. Hence 'Chronic Lyme' is contest as a 'belief', despite people dead from its affects, there's a logic fail.
Borrelia is found in patients hearts, who die from cardiomyopathy, and found in patients brains, at a massively increased rate, who die from dementia. Still, the Govt insist, no Borrelia is never chronic.
So Polio, or Polio and BW experiments we know took place back then. Well If these infected kids were around 10 yrs of age in the 1950's, they would now be around 70+ years old, which is about the right age for their children to be in their 40's+50's with severe ME, meaning another 10 years or CBT/GE and most of the infected will be deceased from uncontrolled disease. If the victim is deceased, there is no court case, because the body will not be in any state to be autopsied once the truth comes out. Those in charge know this. 'CFS' is just a time wasting exercise, as is SEID, as is ME/CFS. Names mean nothing in microbiology without evidence of infection.
If you think about it, the kids of the moms in the 50's to 70's who all got sick in the 1980's and 1990's and never recovered, did this just in time for ME to become 'CFS' to be branded onto them as their fault, their minds fault. A most curious chance finding if there ever was....
Thus logically speaking, that far from a deranged Polio Vaccine causing ME outright, 'it' may well combine with
other pathogens that America and its allies designed in it's years of paranoia against communism (Duck and Cover). It would seem logical these autoimmunity provoking pathogens have other methods of passage into humans that are most worrying - such as Lyme ticks and other insects, which would also link, potentially, to people's pets.
A positive outcome of all this, is no matter which side you agree with, it's always good to think deeply, and never accept what you are told on face value by continued appeals to authority, but instead, to trace the steps back in history. That may, or may not involve deranged polio vaccines that were injurious to those unfortunate to have been stuck with a needle, or have some form of contact (blood transfusion included) with doctors and nurses of the day, who had no idea what was going on, and who unwittingly passed it on.
Rather tragically, all these years later, the public are still mushrooms: kept in the dark and fed on BS. This will never change, and is just part of the landscape of being a tax payer, or someone crippled by an infection that makes you unable to work for life until you die, due to the label of CFS being stamped in your medical file.
That would be a great way to contain people, this CFS idea. Patients would be spend their life fighting for recognition until they're in their 60's and then expire. Who would benefit from that I wonder.
