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UK people: sign this petition to keep the Human Rights Act to protect us as disabled people

Sasha

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All kinds of awfulness happening to disabled people already in the UK as we all know, and now the new govt wants to ditch the Human Rights Act, which includes protection for us as disabled people.

Time to protest!

Sign this petition by major group 38 Degrees (the angle of a slope needed before a pebble can start a landslide) to keep the Human Rights Act:

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/save-our-human-rights

94,000 signatures already (including me). :thumbsup:
 

Marco

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the new govt wants to ditch the Human Rights Act, which includes protection for us as disabled people.

More accurately the government intends to replace the existing legislation that transposed the provisions of the European Convention on Human Rights with a UK Bill of Rights balancing rights and responsibilities rather than exposing the UK to all sorts of trivia far removed from the intent of the original convention.

It helps to know what you're petitioning for.
 

peggy-sue

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To be more accurate still, the government wants to be able to decide who is human and who is not, and not to have a court above them to tell them that disabled folk are human too, even when they decide they are not.

There. Sorted for you.
 

eafw

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The strategy paper is here

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documen...1308660/protecting-human-rights-in-the-uk.txt

"At the heart of our plan is a new British Bill of Rights and Responsibilities. It will ensure that
Parliament is the ultimate source of legal authority, and that the Supreme Court is indeed
supreme in the interpretation of the law."

This is a very clear statement that they do not want any mechanism - other than that which they control - for people to hold the govenrment accountable. No checks and balances, never a good thing.

There also seem to be a load of implications that no-one has really thought through, so could be a real mess. Lawyers will be rubbing their hands in glee.

Wonder how Queenie will feel having to choke this out in her speech "my goverment has decided to abolish human rights..."
 

Sasha

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More accurately the government intends to replace the existing legislation that transposed the provisions of the European Convention on Human Rights with a UK Bill of Rights balancing rights and responsibilities rather than exposing the UK to all sorts of trivia far removed from the intent of the original convention.

It helps to know what you're petitioning for.

You're right that they want to replace it with something (sorry, I should have made that clear in my post - it's been in the news quite a bit so I was assuming, probably wrongly, that UK people would know).

I think the issue is going to be whether we can trust the present govt to produce a UK bill of rights worthy of the name, given how disabled people have been treated for the past five years.
 

Marco

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I think the issue is going to be whether we can trust the present govt to produce a UK bill of rights worthy of the name, given how disabled people have been treated for the past five years.

Any reason not to given that they have just continued with the same trend prior to them taking power and the opposition weren't promising anything much different?
 

Sasha

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Any reason not to given that they have just continued with the same trend prior to them taking power and the opposition weren't promising anything much different?

I'm not saying that Labour would make a better job of a UK bill of rights - I think both parties are very similar in how poorly they've treated the disabled in recent years.
 
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Keir Starmer, the former UK Director of Public Prosecutions and former Head of the Crown Prosecution Service, demolishes the arguments for getting rid of the Human Rights Act:
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The Guardian. 13th May 2015

‘The arguments against the Human Rights Act are coming. They will be false’


Keir Starmer

'In the aftermath of the second world war, nations came together to say “never again”. They established the United Nations and agreed a simple set of universal standards of decency for mankind to cling to: the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. These standards were intended to protect the individual from the state, to uphold the rights of minorities and to provide support for the vulnerable.

The idea was simple; these standards would first be enshrined in regional treaties such as the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) and then be given legal effect in every country. In the UK this was achieved when Labour enacted the Human Rights Act (HRA) in 1998.

The incoming Tory government now intends to strip our people of these universal rights by repealing the HRA. Michael Gove has been appointed as the new justice secretary to lead the assault. In a week when we celebrate VE Day, the irony should not be lost. British politicians, many of them Tory, participated in the drafting of the ECHR in Whitehall because they believed that they were drafting an instrument to reflect the values that we in this country took for granted and which, they thought, vindicated our military triumph.

No doubt Gove will peddle the myth that the HRA is effectively a villains’ charter. But the evidence is against him
No doubt Gove will peddle the usual myth that the HRA is nothing more than a villains’ charter. But the evidence is against him on that. There has been no fundamental shift in defendants’ rights under the HRA, mainly because legislation passed by the Margaret Thatcher government in 1984 set out clear rights for suspects that have been successfully embedded in our law for many years.

By stark contrast, the HRA has heralded a new approach to the protection of the most vulnerable in our society, including child victims of trafficking, women subject to domestic and sexual violence, those with disabilities and victims of crime. After many years of struggling to be heard, these individuals now have not only a voice, but a right to be protected. The Tory plans to repeal the HRA, together with the restricted access to our courts already brought about by the restriction on judicial review introduced by Gove’s predecessor, Chris Grayling, will silence the vulnerable and leave great swaths of executive action unchecked and unaccountable.

Gove may try another tack, arguing that the Tories are not against human rights at all, but simply want to keep those pesky judges in the European court at bay. But this argument also unravels quickly. The rights in the ECHR are very simple. They include the right to life, liberty and security of person; the right to a fair trial; protection from torture and ill treatment; freedom of thought, conscience, religion, speech and assembly; the right to marry; the right to free elections; the right to fair access to the country’s education system; and, to top things off, the right not to be discriminated against. Which of these rights would you not want? One of the reasons the much-vaunted Tory “British bill of rights” has never seen the light of day is because any proposal that does not match these basic ECHR rights will be torn to shreds.......... '

Continues....Read on......
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...usting?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

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