Journeyman
Senior Member
- Messages
- 193
Hi folks,
Over my years of research into reaching personal wellness I've looked into a few different areas as I'm sure most of you have. I've found some benefit in taking useful tidbits from studies in Chinese medicine right through to Ayurveda. One of the most relevant areas to methylation, though, was Orthomolecular medicine which is explained here: http://www.orthomed.org/
Now you'll see that one of the founding forefathers of it (Abram Hoffer) was a big advocate of Niacin (nicotinic acid) as a means of treating the mentally ill. Indeed there seems to be a rule of thumb test to use to identify if you are under or over methylating and this is as follows:
Take a 50mg Nicotinic acid tablet on an empty stomach and see if you get a flush response, and continue taking this dosage till you get an effect. Now apparently if you flush on the first 50mg you're deemed an undermethylator and 'histadelic' where as if you need two or more then you're allegedly copper toxic and so an overmethylator.
One of the key issues for us who are on methylation protocols is knowing what the right dosage is. This is evidenced by the lengthy posts on issues such as titrating to avoid certain side effects and the like which has many forum goers captivated as we try to find what might be right for us to become fully functional human beings achieving what we want to achieve in life.
So I thought that using this rule of thumb from orthomolecular medicine principles I'd be in a great position to use the nicotinic acid test to see whether I'm 'over' or 'under' methylating and so adjust my methylation protocol accordingly. However I'm finding it very difficult.
I'm fairly sure I'm high in B12 because each 1mg of Methyl B12 leads to what I understand to be a higher level of B12 in the body for at least the following 2-3 days, and this just keeps building as you take it daily.... However I will flush at the drop of a hat when I take the Niacin tablet. Even at 25mg on an empty stomach I will often get a very strong red flush on all the key body parts. So how is this so if I'm so 'over methylated' or is the test more about copper toxicity which I'm certainly not having supplemented with plenty of Zinc daily for years now....
I'm keen to get your thoughts as always...
Regards
Journeyman
Over my years of research into reaching personal wellness I've looked into a few different areas as I'm sure most of you have. I've found some benefit in taking useful tidbits from studies in Chinese medicine right through to Ayurveda. One of the most relevant areas to methylation, though, was Orthomolecular medicine which is explained here: http://www.orthomed.org/
Now you'll see that one of the founding forefathers of it (Abram Hoffer) was a big advocate of Niacin (nicotinic acid) as a means of treating the mentally ill. Indeed there seems to be a rule of thumb test to use to identify if you are under or over methylating and this is as follows:
Take a 50mg Nicotinic acid tablet on an empty stomach and see if you get a flush response, and continue taking this dosage till you get an effect. Now apparently if you flush on the first 50mg you're deemed an undermethylator and 'histadelic' where as if you need two or more then you're allegedly copper toxic and so an overmethylator.
One of the key issues for us who are on methylation protocols is knowing what the right dosage is. This is evidenced by the lengthy posts on issues such as titrating to avoid certain side effects and the like which has many forum goers captivated as we try to find what might be right for us to become fully functional human beings achieving what we want to achieve in life.
So I thought that using this rule of thumb from orthomolecular medicine principles I'd be in a great position to use the nicotinic acid test to see whether I'm 'over' or 'under' methylating and so adjust my methylation protocol accordingly. However I'm finding it very difficult.
I'm fairly sure I'm high in B12 because each 1mg of Methyl B12 leads to what I understand to be a higher level of B12 in the body for at least the following 2-3 days, and this just keeps building as you take it daily.... However I will flush at the drop of a hat when I take the Niacin tablet. Even at 25mg on an empty stomach I will often get a very strong red flush on all the key body parts. So how is this so if I'm so 'over methylated' or is the test more about copper toxicity which I'm certainly not having supplemented with plenty of Zinc daily for years now....
I'm keen to get your thoughts as always...
Regards
Journeyman