sueami
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I had been doing well enough on methylation support in the last half of last year on the deadlock quartet and some cofactors. I was taking 2-3 mg folate, 1mg mb12shot, and a few mgs sublingual of mb12 and 10 mg adb12 and lcf. My energy improved, then plateaued.
Come the holidays, I overdo things physically and become quite fatigued. I start resting 3/4 of each day and feel much better. A week later, in early jan. I thoughtlessly run an hour's errands and completely crash to bedbound with exhaustion and mental fatigue.
A month later, feeling a return of some energy, I foolishly try a couple short bouts of housework, triggering a PEM crash that screws up my K balance horribly and brings on POTS type tachycardia and most recently, waking with racing heart in the night.
At first I thought methylation had ultimately failed me. Then I noticed last month that a coconut yogurt I had started consuming 3-5 times a week in late november had 25 pc of RDA of b12 added to it (I presume cyanocobalamin, but it didnt specify.)
Also, in Sept or Oct, I had started adding in a capsule of folinic acid nightly, on the advice of a b12 oils researcher who said my snps indicated a need for folinic. I think I remember @Freddd saying folinic could in some way possibly impair folate.
And I realized last night that I have, in my focus on mitochondrial supplementation, been neglecting to take my ADB12 tablets with any consistency in the last week or two (about when the ANS symptoms began.) I do still apply a squirt of adb12 xdermal oil, so i am getting some amount, perhaps 650mcg a day, but maybe not enough for healing.
I did notice some noticeable brightening/personal growth breakthrough effects when I started taking Acetyl L Carnitine a month ago in the middle of the first crash, and wondered then if I had been taking the wrong form of carnitine the last 8 months.
(I recommend trying out the form that you are not taking, once you have methylation support running smoothly, just to check.)
All of this makes me wonder if I could have deranged my methylation support enough to allow a massive mitochondrial crash. Can ADB12 fix tachycardia and the startling awake from sleep?
(I have managed to stop those startle wakings from becoming full on panic attacks by doing mindfulness work my anxiety/fears during the day and letting myself feel all the fears I have about being this sick, and by taping my mouth shut at night per Buteyko breathing practices. Taping prevents hyperventilation, which triggers panic and also causes you to lose a lot of water at night. I am less dehydrated in the ams now.)
Last question: Recently I saw that someone had compiled a beautiful summary of Freddd's protocol, complete with cofactors and titration results, but I didn't bookmark it. Can anyone easily recall who that was?
Thanks,
sue
Come the holidays, I overdo things physically and become quite fatigued. I start resting 3/4 of each day and feel much better. A week later, in early jan. I thoughtlessly run an hour's errands and completely crash to bedbound with exhaustion and mental fatigue.
A month later, feeling a return of some energy, I foolishly try a couple short bouts of housework, triggering a PEM crash that screws up my K balance horribly and brings on POTS type tachycardia and most recently, waking with racing heart in the night.
At first I thought methylation had ultimately failed me. Then I noticed last month that a coconut yogurt I had started consuming 3-5 times a week in late november had 25 pc of RDA of b12 added to it (I presume cyanocobalamin, but it didnt specify.)
Also, in Sept or Oct, I had started adding in a capsule of folinic acid nightly, on the advice of a b12 oils researcher who said my snps indicated a need for folinic. I think I remember @Freddd saying folinic could in some way possibly impair folate.
And I realized last night that I have, in my focus on mitochondrial supplementation, been neglecting to take my ADB12 tablets with any consistency in the last week or two (about when the ANS symptoms began.) I do still apply a squirt of adb12 xdermal oil, so i am getting some amount, perhaps 650mcg a day, but maybe not enough for healing.
I did notice some noticeable brightening/personal growth breakthrough effects when I started taking Acetyl L Carnitine a month ago in the middle of the first crash, and wondered then if I had been taking the wrong form of carnitine the last 8 months.
(I recommend trying out the form that you are not taking, once you have methylation support running smoothly, just to check.)
All of this makes me wonder if I could have deranged my methylation support enough to allow a massive mitochondrial crash. Can ADB12 fix tachycardia and the startling awake from sleep?
(I have managed to stop those startle wakings from becoming full on panic attacks by doing mindfulness work my anxiety/fears during the day and letting myself feel all the fears I have about being this sick, and by taping my mouth shut at night per Buteyko breathing practices. Taping prevents hyperventilation, which triggers panic and also causes you to lose a lot of water at night. I am less dehydrated in the ams now.)
Last question: Recently I saw that someone had compiled a beautiful summary of Freddd's protocol, complete with cofactors and titration results, but I didn't bookmark it. Can anyone easily recall who that was?
Thanks,
sue
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