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Fry's Labs, anyone?

Aerose91

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I know igenix is the gold standard but I hear a lot about Fry's being the best for Bartonella specifically where IgeniX could miss it. I know Dr Klinghardt uses it. Has anyone else had to go that route?
 

Martial

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A lot of people use them for PCR smear, I remember you mentioning already having positive and cross reactive strains from other labs. That along with a clinical presentation would be enough to diagnose and treat you in an L.L.M.D.'s eyes. I wouldn't bother dishing out the money on any other tests, just worthwhile getting on some form of treatment.
 

Aerose91

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My doctor is shaky on it. I had 2 bands of igG show up and he said u need at least 5 to be deemed positive so I'm still getting both sides of the fence. My stricter test that I did (stonybrook) came back negative so he considers that, too. I'm wondering if I should just eat the $ and get the tests done once and for all
 

Gingergrrl

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My doctor is shaky on it. I had 2 bands of igG show up and he said u need at least 5 to be deemed positive so I'm still getting both sides of the fence. My stricter test that I did (stonybrook) came back negative so he considers that, too. I'm wondering if I should just eat the $ and get the tests done once and for all

I know very little about this topic but if you can afford to do the test (both physically and financially) and the results would give you or your doctor peace of mind, then I think it is worth it.
 

Sushi

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I know very little about this topic but if you can afford to do the test (both physically and financially) and the results would give you or your doctor peace of mind, then I think it is worth it.

Or, it can just raise more questions. My Igenex results were equivocal and I needed further tests. Finally got a positive by PCR, which is hard to dispute.

Sushi
 

Gingergrrl

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Or, it can just raise more questions. My Igenex results were equivocal and I needed further tests. Finally got a positive by PCR, which is hard to dispute.

Sorry, I didn't realize that and know very little about this topic. I was thinking if there was a legitimate test that is considered the "Gold standard" of current testing, then it could be worth it for peace of mind? Unless it was physically dangerous or too expensive.
 

Sushi

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I was thinking if there was a legitimate test that is considered the "Gold standard" of current testing, then it could be worth it for peace of mind?
PCR would probably be the gold standard in that a positive is definitely a positive (they find the DNA), but....it is very hard to find these infections in the blood as they are primarily intracellular, so a negative PCR means only that they didn't find it in the sample they had to work with. It doesn't tell you that you don't have it.

Sushi
 

Aerose91

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I feel like a tissue biopsy would be the most fail-proof. I'd rather a brain biopsy be my last resort, though.