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" Shell shock solved"

ukxmrv

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Sorry it's from the Daily Mail (UK trash paper)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ess-social-adjustment-disorders-soldiers.html

"In the study, the scientists used a molecular marker to track a protein called APP that normally travels from one nerve cell to another via a long nerve fibre, or axon.

When axons are broken by an injury, APP and other proteins accumulate at the breaks, causing swelling.

In the brains of four of the five veterans who survived wartime blast injuries, the axonal bulbs were medium-sized and usually arrayed in a honeycomb pattern near blood vessels.

‘We did not see that pattern in other types of brain injury,’ Professor Koliatsos said.

The veterans’ brains did not show signs of the neurodegenerative disease known as punch-drunk syndrome, which is caused by multiple concussions.

But near the damaged axons, specialised cells, called microglia, that are involved in brain inflammation, were revealed.
Dr Koliatsos explained: ‘In brains that had been exposed to blasts, we see microglial cells right next to these unusual axonal abnormalities.

The presence of these cells suggests the veterans who overdosed had pre-existing brain injuries.

Lesions may be fragments of nerve fibres that broke at the time of the blast and slowly deteriorated, or may have been weakened by the blast and broken by some later accident like a concussion or drug overdose, the study says.
 

Martial

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Interesting but still leaves a lot of mystery for the WWI soldiers who had no active injuries returning home. "Shell Shock Syndrome" back then was probably the first term ever used for PTSD.
 

*GG*

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The paper that supported Hitler, hm?
And like, everyone and their brother knows the "Phone Hacking" inquiry was squelched so as not to upset too many of the media barons who control our government to an undue extent.
UK tabloids = lowest of the low!

Doesn't seem like it could be any worse than Time magazine with Hitler etc as Men of the Year! Yikes!! :bang-head::devil:

GG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year
 

physicsstudent13

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I was attacked several times as a child. Once a kid black belt kicked me in the back of the head and I was dizzy for a while and blacked out and fell down. Could this cause some kind of injuries? what kind of injuries could I have, like possibly an injury causing a sleep disorder???
 

taniaaust1

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But near the damaged axons, specialised cells, called microglia, that are involved in brain inflammation, were revealed.
Dr Koliatsos explained: ‘In brains that had been exposed to blasts, we see microglial cells right next to these unusual axonal abnormalities.

Is anyone up to seeing if that researcher could get interested in studying the brains of ME people?
 

Snow Leopard

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I was attacked several times as a child. Once a kid black belt kicked me in the back of the head and I was dizzy for a while and blacked out and fell down. Could this cause some kind of injuries? what kind of injuries could I have, like possibly an injury causing a sleep disorder???

Do you have a sleep disorder?

Many people with ME don't have sleep disorders.

As far as head injuries go, they are not uncommon (more common in men obviously), but few actually go on to develop some sort of disorder...
 

physicsstudent13

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is ME caused by a bacterial or viral infection? so there is no cure for this disease? I have a horrid sleep disorder, do you have it too so we can discuss?
 

SilverbladeTE

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I suggest folk acquaint themselves with the racism, ignorance, homophobia, and crimes of the British tabloids before embracing them.
Daily Mail and the rest are at the forefront of attacking the disabled and unemployed, so supporting those rags if you have M.E. is self defeating!
Doesn't meant hey can't have good items, but usually they warp or screw things up, or outright make them up.

And sometimes the "man of the year" wasn't about being "Mr Nice Guy", but about having the most "impact".
Hitler, Stalin and Mao had a lot of impact even if they were evil SOBs.


On the head injury issue
well I had concussion several times, and meningitis
But many people do have such experiences alas.
Maybe linked but who knows, could be complex mix of genetics and trauma
though I think the idea of an as yet unidentified Human retrovirus and THEN that acts in concert with other things (probably things that trigger strong immune responses) is most probable cause of M.E.