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Hey guys, I was posting this as a success story that happened for myself upon using fred's methylation protocol!
I was recently for the past year and a half dealing with a very severe case of lyme, including issues with my nervous system, tendons, bones, brain, and muscles, a classic full body infection combined with co infections, the worst symptoms and most worrisome for me being hypo perfusion and inflammation of the brain, causing severe behavioral changes, sleep cycle changes, dementia, and even psychosis..
I am currently also under the care of a local LLMD who is helping to treat the lyme..
I started using Fred's protocol about a month back to help treat my issues and had run into several methyl traps and became increasingly frustrated with my rapid mental and physical decline, for a short period I was really concerned I would be institutionalized for the psychotic/dementia symptoms before getting onto a correct self healing treatment..
I had run into a bunch of issues with folate deficiency, potassium deficiency which almost stopped my heart and a few other things, the folate deficiency which raised inflammation added to the herxing inflammation from abx treatment of the lyme... This was easily the most scary and trying time of my life as I knew if inflammation increased to greatly it would kill me, or put me in a coma.. I had used a whole host of anti inflammatories like bio active curcimin, and fermented fish cod oil, along side an anti inflammatory diet, if I wasn't I shudder to think what could have happened..
For the lyme treatment I was first treated with high dose oral Ceftin, then high dose oral Amoxy, and then my own herbal regiment of Prima Una De Gato, Grape Fruit Seed extract, and several essential oil treatment herbs..
I finally fixed all the issues I was having with methyl traps and had rapid healing occur almost overnight! At first when treating the lyme I would always have really severe herxes to even minimum doses of herbs or pharm grade abx...
After fixing the methylation issues and removing some methyl traps I was not aware of like the Glutathione pre cursor the methylation system fired up instantaneously.. I then had some issues with potassium deficiency but I promptly took care of it after the symptoms with a ton of potassium intake of foods, and the brand name NOW potassium chloride supplemental powder..
after correcting the methylation issues I am surprised to say that almost all of my lyme symptoms are dissapearing.. I woke up for the first time in a LONG time with normal energy and feeling like I actually slept.. I had normal energy through out the day and no more severe cognitive issues and the like.. I took pretty high dose herbal abx to treat the lyme and also barely even herxed! I know wonder the reason why some people herx and others do not possibly being due to methylation issues? Herx reactions release a lot of ammonia from bacteria kill off, so without proper methylation for detox its no wonder some people can get so over toxic and herx so hard!
As of now I am sure I still have some degree of brain inflammation and hypo perfusion from infection, as well as some various other issues in other parts of my physiology, sometimes this all takes time to resolve as the infection is eradicated but I definitely feel like this infection is finally clearing way and rapidly!
The reason I ran into methyl traps was actually because I continued to use protein bars which I thought were safe because they did not contain folic acid, however they did have whey which caused partial methyl trap, compounded on top of this was the other methyl trap. Riboceine, a supplemental glutathione pre cursor.. I know I even recommended it to some on here with my treatment protocol, I did not realise it was causing methyl trap though and promptly made an update post saying to discard the use or purchase of it on my original riboceine thread..
After about a couple days of finally removing the riboceine the methylation process just kind of jump started very powerfully and almost out of nowhere..
My personal use was bi weekly injections of methyl b12, and 15-30,000 mg of methyl b12 on non injection days 5,000-10,000 mcg of methyl folate a day, 3,000 mg of ado b12, and 500 mg of L carnatine..
Also going to add in phospholipids soon on Radio's suggestion, The NT NO factor brand. I think this will also help a lot!
I was using very high doses of the protocol to fully penetrate and heal the CNS system, perhaps this is why the start up was so immense and the potassium demand so much, and quickly.. I also dealt with the severe emotional changes that occured with the methylation start up but just tried to breathe through it all.. It was quite manageable with me even at the high doses thanks to all my mindfulness practice!
Anyways I just wanted to post and let others know of how much methylation helps not only in CFS/M.E. but also all chronic illness like my late dessimated stage of Lyme..
I would note people be VERY careful when doing methylation for lyme though, the pre existing inflammation combined with folate deficiency inflammation is a very dangerous combo. There must be strong prevention of methyl trapping and very proper AWARENESS for that!
I hope you all are doing well and find this info very useful!
One other thing that I believe benifited me the most was proper diet which is such a HUGE component! Many do not realize the nutritional toxins we feed ourselves everyday and knowing what they are can lead to much needed healing on all levels, especially those with M.E.
Here is where I get my nutritional info and tips, in my opinion one of the few sources I trust for REAL nutritional advice and tips.. I am very backgrounded in fitness and nutrition so am no noobie to reading nutrition and understanding the underlying applications and functions that happen from proper diet, basically it makes it easier to smell out the BS advice as well! lol
http://chriskresser.com/
Just go through the site and try to read as much articles as you can!
here is the 9 steps to perfect health series specifically!
http://chriskresser.com/perfect-health
I was recently for the past year and a half dealing with a very severe case of lyme, including issues with my nervous system, tendons, bones, brain, and muscles, a classic full body infection combined with co infections, the worst symptoms and most worrisome for me being hypo perfusion and inflammation of the brain, causing severe behavioral changes, sleep cycle changes, dementia, and even psychosis..
I am currently also under the care of a local LLMD who is helping to treat the lyme..
I started using Fred's protocol about a month back to help treat my issues and had run into several methyl traps and became increasingly frustrated with my rapid mental and physical decline, for a short period I was really concerned I would be institutionalized for the psychotic/dementia symptoms before getting onto a correct self healing treatment..
I had run into a bunch of issues with folate deficiency, potassium deficiency which almost stopped my heart and a few other things, the folate deficiency which raised inflammation added to the herxing inflammation from abx treatment of the lyme... This was easily the most scary and trying time of my life as I knew if inflammation increased to greatly it would kill me, or put me in a coma.. I had used a whole host of anti inflammatories like bio active curcimin, and fermented fish cod oil, along side an anti inflammatory diet, if I wasn't I shudder to think what could have happened..
For the lyme treatment I was first treated with high dose oral Ceftin, then high dose oral Amoxy, and then my own herbal regiment of Prima Una De Gato, Grape Fruit Seed extract, and several essential oil treatment herbs..
I finally fixed all the issues I was having with methyl traps and had rapid healing occur almost overnight! At first when treating the lyme I would always have really severe herxes to even minimum doses of herbs or pharm grade abx...
After fixing the methylation issues and removing some methyl traps I was not aware of like the Glutathione pre cursor the methylation system fired up instantaneously.. I then had some issues with potassium deficiency but I promptly took care of it after the symptoms with a ton of potassium intake of foods, and the brand name NOW potassium chloride supplemental powder..
after correcting the methylation issues I am surprised to say that almost all of my lyme symptoms are dissapearing.. I woke up for the first time in a LONG time with normal energy and feeling like I actually slept.. I had normal energy through out the day and no more severe cognitive issues and the like.. I took pretty high dose herbal abx to treat the lyme and also barely even herxed! I know wonder the reason why some people herx and others do not possibly being due to methylation issues? Herx reactions release a lot of ammonia from bacteria kill off, so without proper methylation for detox its no wonder some people can get so over toxic and herx so hard!
As of now I am sure I still have some degree of brain inflammation and hypo perfusion from infection, as well as some various other issues in other parts of my physiology, sometimes this all takes time to resolve as the infection is eradicated but I definitely feel like this infection is finally clearing way and rapidly!
The reason I ran into methyl traps was actually because I continued to use protein bars which I thought were safe because they did not contain folic acid, however they did have whey which caused partial methyl trap, compounded on top of this was the other methyl trap. Riboceine, a supplemental glutathione pre cursor.. I know I even recommended it to some on here with my treatment protocol, I did not realise it was causing methyl trap though and promptly made an update post saying to discard the use or purchase of it on my original riboceine thread..
After about a couple days of finally removing the riboceine the methylation process just kind of jump started very powerfully and almost out of nowhere..
My personal use was bi weekly injections of methyl b12, and 15-30,000 mg of methyl b12 on non injection days 5,000-10,000 mcg of methyl folate a day, 3,000 mg of ado b12, and 500 mg of L carnatine..
Also going to add in phospholipids soon on Radio's suggestion, The NT NO factor brand. I think this will also help a lot!
I was using very high doses of the protocol to fully penetrate and heal the CNS system, perhaps this is why the start up was so immense and the potassium demand so much, and quickly.. I also dealt with the severe emotional changes that occured with the methylation start up but just tried to breathe through it all.. It was quite manageable with me even at the high doses thanks to all my mindfulness practice!
Anyways I just wanted to post and let others know of how much methylation helps not only in CFS/M.E. but also all chronic illness like my late dessimated stage of Lyme..
I would note people be VERY careful when doing methylation for lyme though, the pre existing inflammation combined with folate deficiency inflammation is a very dangerous combo. There must be strong prevention of methyl trapping and very proper AWARENESS for that!
I hope you all are doing well and find this info very useful!
One other thing that I believe benifited me the most was proper diet which is such a HUGE component! Many do not realize the nutritional toxins we feed ourselves everyday and knowing what they are can lead to much needed healing on all levels, especially those with M.E.
Here is where I get my nutritional info and tips, in my opinion one of the few sources I trust for REAL nutritional advice and tips.. I am very backgrounded in fitness and nutrition so am no noobie to reading nutrition and understanding the underlying applications and functions that happen from proper diet, basically it makes it easier to smell out the BS advice as well! lol
http://chriskresser.com/
Just go through the site and try to read as much articles as you can!
here is the 9 steps to perfect health series specifically!
http://chriskresser.com/perfect-health
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