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I don't think that qualifies as medical treatment to anyone but the psychobabblers.Really? I figured they had her drugged up on psych meds when she was in the hospital.
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I don't think that qualifies as medical treatment to anyone but the psychobabblers.Really? I figured they had her drugged up on psych meds when she was in the hospital.
Does this mean that Justina's original treating physician at Tufts will be allowed to resume her treatment? That would certainly be a big improvement.Polanowicz’s letter to Jones states that, for the parents to win state support for returning their daughter to them, they must meet some conditions, including following Tufts Medical Center’s care plan for Justina, participating in family therapy, and meeting with DCF to review their child’s progress.
While Justine was imprisoned at Boston Children's Hospital, it was a simple consequence of that imprisonment. Letting her go to church would have also allowed the family have less-supervised contact with her. Basically it was fall-out from the kidnapping itself, rather than specific denial of freedom to practice a religion.
It looks like there'll be more of this going on in future. Just seen this on RT news:
'For the first time in history, the UK is planning to introduce the so-called Cinderella law, which will jail parents failing to show love to children for up to 10 years in prison, putting it alongside physical or sexual abuse, local media reported.
One sad and appalling feature of this case is that in the US the doctors/hospital/courts could not do this (legally) if Justina was an adult. In order to force institutionalization for psychiatric reasons for more than a couple of days, it would have to be proved that the adult person was an immediate danger to themselves or others --
That may be true in Australia. I don't believe it's true in the US where Justina lives.Any bedbound person who is so sick that they cant get up for food or drinks, (if their illness wasnt believed to be physical eg by a person who believes ME/CFS is psychologically caused) could be said to be an immediate danger to themself.
There is a very real danger out there for very sick ME adults as long as there is a tainted view out there that our illness is a psych one.
Yes, in the US I think someone would usually have to be in imminent danger of them actively harming themselves - like suicide attempts. They'll never be able to commit adults for simply being believed to have a psychosomatic disorder and relying on others to care for them.That may be true in Australia. I don't believe it's true in the US where Justina lives.
Any bedbound person who is so sick that they cant get up for food or drinks, (if their illness wasnt believed to be physical eg by a person who believes ME/CFS is psychologically caused) could be said to be an immediate danger to themself.
There is a very real danger out there for very sick ME adults as long as there is a tainted view out there that our illness is a psych one.
Hospitals often have hospital chaplains.. from what has gone on I can only assume she was denied this option too. She should of had her families religious needs respected even if they couldnt be alone with her or take her to church.
They have a chaplin and Justina was able to attend a generic service. I will post where I found this as soon as I find it again.
Barb
This is my constant worry and one of the reasons why I deliberately stayed under the radar back when i was bedridden for two years. I was too ill to take the risk as the consequences of showing just how ill could be 'even worse' than the already dire existence
Yes, in the US I think someone would usually have to be in imminent danger of them actively harming themselves - like suicide attempts. They'll never be able to commit adults for simply being believed to have a psychosomatic disorder and relying on others to care for them.
Children are more vulnerable to intervention, due to the need to protect them. But even so, I think the Boston Children's' Hospital fiasco will eventually be found to be a gross over-reach by the hospital, the judge, and the child welfare agency involved, regardless of Justina's illness.
The fact that severe ME patients end up having to hide how sick they are due to genuine fears about this. Puts our lives at risk.
They might end up in a hospital or getting other assistance. They wouldn't be involuntarily committed unless they're threatening to actively harm themselves.What do you think would happen to the severe ME patient who is laying there, unable to get themselves food and drink yet do not have another person to get it for them? Will the American system just allow someone to die and not step in in some way if they find someone in that state? Im curious about how your system would work in such a case? Do they just let people die?
Im curious about how your system would work in such a case? Do they just let people die?