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Although not part of the Science study, didn't someone from WPI do some tests on blood from the UK and got some positive results?
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Although not part of the Science study, didn't someone from WPI do some tests on blood from the UK and got some positive results?
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--he says 36% of tests have detected XMRV, including a few from the United Kingdom.http://sciencenow. sciencemag. org/cgi/content/ full/2010/ 106/1
Although not part of the Science study, didn't someone from WPI do some tests on blood from the UK and got some positive results?
Judy Mikovits from an interview on October 10, 2009:
"We also have data showing that the virus attacks the human immune system," said Dr Mikovits. She is testing a further 500 blood samples gathered from chronic fatigue patients diagnosed in London.
"The same percentages are holding up," she said.
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GO, Annette and WPI!!! we know who really has the patients' interests at heart, and you have our support 100,000%!!!!
This one is great fun to read!
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Frustrating though this may be for sufferers from CFS, it is discussions like these, as one group of researchers tries to replicate the results of another, that lead to scientific progress. In the meantime, one of the companies licensed to do the American XMRV test claims that of the 300 patients, including some from Britain, who have sent samples in for testing, 36% have tested positive for XMRV. It seems likely that the causes of CFS will continue to be a subject of controversy for a while yet.
I have been trying to find out about the "500 London samples" but have been told that this data is from an unpublished paper and no one will comment on it.
Thanks, Alice Band. An unpublished paper.....when I wonder? You said you have been told...got to ask by whom? My hopes are rising again - they are up and down like a yoyo.
A group of patients in the UK have however, sent fresh blood samples, using an over night courier to VIP in Reno for private testing. The results have not been released by VIP dx as yet but they said end of this week. I do hope that the extra work around the Imperial College paper will not divert VIP resources away from this.
That is the day after tomorrow - (wow, I'm on the ball today ). I do hope people will post here.
Lombardi argues that patients can avoid infecting other people with XMRV and have their diagnoses validated, if nothing else. His test results also bolster the science in the original paper--he says 36% of tests have detected XMRV, including a few from the United Kingdom.http://sciencenow. sciencemag. org/cgi/content/ full/2010/ 106/1
Dr Judy says the percentages from the London samples were 'holding up'. I wouldn't call 90-odd% of 500 patients 'a few'. Whatever it is, it will be significantly more than that of I.C., though. It will be interesting to see how they will respond. It'll have to be those mouse droppings!
Alice
Dr Judy says the percentages from the London samples were 'holding up'. I wouldn't call 90-odd% of 500 patients 'a few'. Whatever it is, it will be significantly more than that of I.C., though.
Hey George,
Quit posting stuff "I" don't want to read! I have a co-worker (from my former life) who reads The Economist like it was the Bible. I was hoping to have convinced him that with the XMRV studies that this illness should be taken more seriously. Now this, more controversy.
If you don't stop posting stuff I don't want to read, I will have to send my fat cat over to beat up George!!
Uh oh, moderators, was that a threat?
Maxine
HI CG. I was thinking that the 300 tests cited by Lombardi refers only to VIP Dx commercial tests, of which "a few" have been from the UK and 36% have been positive, whereas Mikovits' 500 are WPI study tests, in which "the same percentages are holding up".
If this is the case, then Lombardi's numbers wouldn't include antibody tests, only PCR & culture.
This press release has been sent to every article that has been published. Yes we need all of you to write and ask them to tell the whole story. It's time to put on our boxing gloves! United @Carla, Carlos, Hunter Hopkins , At everybody that can it's time to Unite under one Cause. Please email me and let's get to work.
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It's literally Psychiatry against Science
Who's for Science????
Andrea
Writing the papers with your personal story . especially Science, Discover, Nature, Economist, the UK papers , And any papers that published this . The thing is Plos One should not be getting this much coverage. It's CFS that's why. It sells papers . Let's take advantage of right now at this moment they are focused on this disease and educate them about ME/CFS from a personal point of view.
Psychiatrists VS. Scientists
WPI has written a press release published in notes. We have sent this out far and wide to the people covering the UK study. We are at this moment working on new information and I will publish when authorized to do so. In the mean time if you would like to write the people who have covered t...his story this always helps the media to get both points of view . A reporter once told me personal stories are the best way to get to the media. After all they are like you and me. Most really want to show the human side of things. Google XMRV and UK and you will see the articles written. Please feel free to leave your comments , questions and concerns. The gloves are off get ready to Unite and Fight, Fight, Fight!!!
Andrea W.G.