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ME CFS conference in New York 20th November 2013 relating to treatment .

ukxmrv

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Gupta isn't a Dr. He's a snakeoil salesman from the UK. I know patients who have seen him in his London office and he tells them that their disease is nothing more than the Amygdala being stuck on in a flight or fight mode and he teaches them relaxation techniques to supposedly calm it all down.

Shocked to see someone like that at the conference.

A huge thanks to Justin and Citybug for attending and feeding back to us on the main points. I know how hard it is to follow everything and try to condense it down. Would loved to have been there and your reports make me feel like I was. You'll probably crash now after this and I wanted to say how much I appreciate your reports, especially when they take more out of you.
 

JT1024

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Massachusetts
Business as usual. No news as always. It is the same bla bla i hear for more then a decade now. I hope a real breakthrough will come up within 3 years but i don't think that is going to happen in a hundred years... sorry for my skepticism.

New "kids" on the block. While there is much the same, the entry of Eric Schadt is significant. Did you bother to check him out? He is not one to care about politics or academic hierarchy. If you have any understanding of science, you may have better appreciation for this conference if you check him out.

IMHO, this IS big news!
 

beaker

ME/cfs 1986
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773
Location
USA
Justin,


I had posted earlier, in response to the comment from Frank Ruscetti about private funding of ME research, about three (3) private research initiatives that I would feel comfortable donating to. I was hoping that someone would make a comment about others.

Can you provide a link to where people can find more information about the Mt. Sinai project?

Wally

I posted this info a couple years ago that I received after much effort w/ contacting Dr. E. and having a friend, who is a patient of his, getting clarifications of his answers. Can't find the post. But I found the email.
I quote this from an email from his office. He has 2 foundations I have donated to the second one listed and received thank you letters back from Dr. E. that it went where it was meant to go. Since I send it to Dr. E. I feel confident that it gets to the right place.
PS it is tax deduct. if that makes any difference. I *think* they both are.

ETA: I just saw the post about the fundraising thread for enlander. If the group listed ( sorry already gone from my brain) is like some of the others, they may take a cut. It may be better to donate directly via options below.

1. Names of Foundations Caron and Derek Enlander Foundation
2. Contact information Derek Enlander MD
860 Fifth Avenue
New York NY 10065

3. Who to make check out to.
Derek Enlander MD notation Caron and Derek Enlander Foundation
4. What is each foundation supporting?
Medical Research in these specific areas

Cancer research
ME/CFS research especially treatment of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Fibromyalgia cause and treatment
Lymes Disease

Want to know specifically where the money is going and how it will be used..
as specified above

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1. Names of Foundations

Mount Sinai ME/CFS Center
Mount Sinai School of Medicine

c/o Derek Enlander MD
860 Fifth Avenue
New York NY 10065

3. Who to make check out to.
Mount Sinai ME/CFS Center
4. What is each foundation supporting?
Medical Research in these specific areas

ME/CFS research especially treatment of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
 
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beaker

ME/cfs 1986
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773
Location
USA
From Lipkin study there is big difference between patients up to 3 years and long term. How to reset immune system. Different cytokines can be shut down by many existing drugs ( arthritis drugs, diamox (anti-altitude sickeness)(Dr. M) also abx, antidepressant nortryptiline (dr P)

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Interesting. Do you have any more info on what was said about diamox ? For awhile back ...... 20+ years ago. Cheney had just about everyone on it for head pressure/headaches and other neuro stuff i don't remember any more. Bell used it as well.
I had a nasty reaction to LP and went on it. That and IV fluids several times a week for a couple years did more for me than anything else I have ever tried. ( was on the diamox longer, couldn't keep getting fluids, insurance and different dr. ) Got me able to do more than lay absolutely flat and straight in the dark. Got me up a few notches. A turning point.
I went off it when I wanted to give florinef a try. ( diamox is contraindicated ) diamox was the hardest med I ever had to wean off of. My current dr. said he didn't want me ever back on it. But sometimes I do think about it.
 

justinreilly

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NYC (& RI)
Interesting. Do you have any more info on what was said about diamox ? For awhile back ...... 20+ years ago. Cheney had just about everyone on it for head pressure/headaches and other neuro stuff i don't remember any more. Bell used it as well.
I had a nasty reaction to LP and went on it. That and IV fluids several times a week for a couple years did more for me than anything else I have ever tried. ( was on the diamox longer, couldn't keep getting fluids, insurance and different dr. ) Got me able to do more than lay absolutely flat and straight in the dark. Got me up a few notches. A turning point.
I went off it when I wanted to give florinef a try. ( diamox is contraindicated ) diamox was the hardest med I ever had to wean off of. My current dr. said he didn't want me ever back on it. But sometimes I do think about it.

may i ask why did your current doc say never diamox and is she or he an ME doc?
 

justinreilly

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NYC (& RI)
Did I forget to mention during the Q & A someone asked if anyone there had been contacted by IoM to be on the ME redefinition panel. Nancy Klimas was the only one (of her, Dan Peterson, Eric Schadt, Judy Mikovits, Derek Enlander, Frank Ruscetti and Ashok Gupta)
 

beaker

ME/cfs 1986
Messages
773
Location
USA
may i ask why did your current doc say never diamox and is she or he an ME doc?
Because of how horrible it was to go off of it. Not an ME doc. A rheumy academic I have been teaching.
He reads what I bring him. He is willing to try most things that come up.
He has an interest. But his grant money and lab lead him more toward "more popular" auto immune disorders and related research.
 
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justinreilly

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Beaker, Wow that's great that you have found a specialist who is willing to let you teach him and that you do! Good or you and him!
 

justinreilly

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NYC (& RI)
Wally,

Let me add another good thing Mt. Sinai is doing- it has allocated funds for two fellows in ME per year. I know at least one doctor has started his fellowship. This is crucially important, bc as we all know, the few ME experts out there are getting very close to or beyond retirement age and there are few young doctors taking it up. A fellowship takes a very qualified specialist medical doctor and teaches him in a field for one year. THis is great because we will get two new highly educated and intelligent doctors to get specialized in ME every year. This is a great start.

BTW, Jay reported back to me that he has discussed the situation with the office and made it clear these things need to be done. Jay had already started on some aspects like setting up and managing a Facebook page and they plan to get things together, but it will take time, especially with Jay and everyone now focused on the IoM situation.
 
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Nielk

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Mount Sinai ME CFS Center conference (NOV 2013) DVD video discs of the talks are now available on Ebay..... search Sinai CFS conference 2013....( $8 each ; $25 the set of 5)
Talks approx 40 mins each are by Eric Schadt ( genetics if ME CFS), Dan Peterson (Treatment using Vistide and other modes); Nancy Klimas (new implications in Immunology); Judy Miklovits ( Followup on the XMRV debacle); Derek Enlander ( the Mount Sinai Post Exertion Study and new developments in Treatment)
 

Kati

Patient in training
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Mount Sinai ME CFS Center conference (NOV 2013) DVD video discs of the talks are now available on Ebay..... search Sinai CFS conference 2013....( $8 each ; $25 the set of 5)
Talks approx 40 mins each are by Eric Schadt ( genetics if ME CFS), Dan Peterson (Treatment using Vistide and other modes); Nancy Klimas (new implications in Immunology); Judy Miklovits ( Followup on the XMRV debacle); Derek Enlander ( the Mount Sinai Post Exertion Study and new developments in Treatment)
You got the link to that ebay product?
 

Dolphin

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I was just wondering whether anyone has got their DVDs? I paid in January and haven't received anything. If nobody has received any DVDs, I'll hold off contacting them; but if one or more people have got dvds, I want to follow it up. Thanks.